Tim Wessman e-mail



#23

Sorry to take up forum space over this. I've tried to send two emails to Tim in order to working out shipping details on his gutted 49g+ for my retrofit project. If you can send me a working email address or just email me, I would really appreciate it.

Best Regards,
Hugh

hugh.evans@openrpn.org


#24

The Great OpenRPN Project continues... LOL!

vaporware, VaporWare, VAPORWARE!!!!


#25

Hiding behind a vapor-identity to broadcast ineptitudes is a clear sign of bravery.

I hope your high level contribution will be archived to highlight the quality of all others.

Etienne


#26

I'm not sure what vapor identity you think I'm hiding behind. I exist, and go by my true legal name. Thus, I have nothing to hide.

On a side note, what are you trying to accomplish by accusing OpenRPN of being vaporware? Would you rather that I take your advice and give up, or would you like to have high quality calculators on the market again?

To make this perfectly clear, I cannot be deterred from this project. Even if if takes years, it will happen.

Best regards,
Hugh Evans


#27

Hi, Hugh;

please, forgive me posting before Etienne's response, and I appologize for that, but it is clear to me that Etienne refers to the anonymous post that calls OpenRPN `Vaporware`, and not straight to OpenRPN. In fact, I take Etienne's post as defending OpenRPN, not against it. I take my observations based on previous contacts with Etienne by e-mail and one very successfull negociation with him.

I am one of the guys that support OpenRPN, but I cannot see a way to go beyond and actually work with it.

Again, forgive me, guys.

Cheers.

Luiz (Brazil)

Edited: 23 Feb 2006, 3:29 a.m.


#28

The electronics industry magazines keep talking about the increasing time-to-market pressures and decreasing market windows. They're talking of course about the consumer gadget market, and the things that move very quickly and have short product lives, like cell phones, PDAs, digital cameras, iPods, miniature memory cards, etc.. Editorials in the magazines also periodically lament the fact that products developed under these pressures come out half-baked, with lots of bugs and not even having been given time for a decent manual to be written. Put me down as one who is fed up with this kind of thing myself. Some things take many years to develop, even when they're well funded and have a full-time professional team working on them. I'm not about to pressure openRPN to meet the unrealistic schedules dictated by bean counters or by customers who don't understand what's involved. My own industry is generally not like what I described above; but I do know what it's like to be embarrassed because the small company's impatient president, who doesn't understand engineering, set an unrealistic introduction date and stuck to it, against the advice of his engineers, and showed something at a trade show, or maybe took orders for something we couldn't deliver yet. Give openRPN time. Right from the beginning, I figured they'd probably need several years, considering the time limitations of those involved having day jobs, the custom double-shot keys, maybe a custom LCD, but maybe most of all, a big software job ahead. Now only only three months into the pregnancy, some are saying, "Well, where's the baby?!"


#29

Here, here!

Wishing Hugh all the best of luck.

#30

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#31

Well, some of us do like to hear about OpenRPN here. We also like to here about "Bring back the 15c!" and numerous other projects. For instance, I don't have a functioning 41c, and I don't follow the MLDL project very closely, but I enjoy seeing that it is going on--even though I usually don't read the thread. I don't often "play" in Valentin's quizzes, but I enjoy seeing them and reading them. Some threads do not interest me in the least. I ignore them.

You should do the same. If this thread does not interest you, ignore it!

#32

Hugh,
I wish you the best of luck. Your project is very interesting, and from what I know of it, I would definitley want to buy some of your products. I hope that you hang in there.

#33

Hello Hugh, Luiz,

Yes, my post was specifically referring to the anonymous post just before and of course NOT to the OpenRpn project which I respect and follow with great interest. I'll be on the waiting list to be in the first production batch!

This clearly shows that my command of English still needs improvement but I felt the need to react to this useless attack.

Thank you very much Luiz for making my intentions clear!

Friendly regards to both.

Etienne

Edited: 23 Feb 2006, 12:41 p.m.


#34

Quote:
This clearly shows that my command of English still needs improvement but I felt the need to react to this useless attack.

I'm also not a native english speaker but your post was immediately clear to me. It was very likely clear to everyone except Hugh;). I can understand that to some degree, several stupid comments were made concerning OpenRPN so I imagine he is quite touchy now.
#35

Sorry. I was really busy writing business plan stuff last week until last night at 1:15 PM when I finally got it done. I will ship what you need tomorrow.

TW

#36

Indeed, this was a confusing thread. I would like to thank everyone for your expressions of support, it's nice to receieve a bit of affirmation from time to time.

Like many of you, I became tired of the current trend of disposable electronics. Given the number of engineers, programmers, and other on this board I realized it was a matter of organizing them and taking care of the production logistics myself. Ultimately Chad and I would like to form a company that will serve as an engineers playground and start making quality high-end products that can outlive their users.

Thanks to Tim Wessman, I now have a 49g+ on the way. Our retrofit kit will be the first OpenRPN product. Now an important question, what to call it? 49gx? 50gx? This could be a fun discussion.

Again, I appologize for any misunderstanding.

Best Regards,
Hugh

PS. I have a section ready on our wiki to begin entering a pure 42s based command reference... It's even populated with command names. Please help if you can.


#37

Quote:
I have a section ready on our wiki to begin entering a pure 42s based command reference... It's even populated with command names. Please help if you can.

Hmmh, Hugh, are you talking about
this?

If true, this list looks pretty much the same to me after I appended some proposals for additional commands several weeks ago. What do you need? Do you want us to document the commands? Then IMHO we should agree on the command set first.

Else please tell us what you want and where we shall put it.


#38

Quote:

If true, this list looks pretty much the same to me after I appended some proposals for additional commands several weeks ago.


I sumbitted a comment regarding ATAN2 function and it's there.

Quote:
Else please tell us what you want and where we shall put it.

May I suggest that all those interesting to help in any way and/or throw some suggestion(s) regarding OpenRPN register and post to its forum.

It will be nice to see more life in OpenRPN forum(s) and Hugh can inform MoHPC users with the regular 'update' post.

Sincerely,

Gour


#39

s/more/some

#40

I forgot to mention, the link to our old wiki apparently still has yet to be removed. Our new wiki is located at:

doc.openrpn.org/wakka

Thus far we have selected two officially supported programming lanuages:
*fix - Our answer to UserRPL, the low leve core of which will be used to write the other languages. Eventually it will function in postfix, infix, and prefix modes.
RPN - In its' arguably most mature form adapted from the 42s.


If you have the time and the inclination please open up your old manuals and fill in what you can in our command reference. For now you don't need to follow the command definition standard. I appreciate the help and will be more than happy to bring everything up to spec.

#41

Quote:
Now an important question, what to call it? 49gx? 50gx?

IQ 49g++

('HP' + 0x0101 = 'IQ')

Marcus, who will never hide behind a "funny" name...


#42

Quote:
Now an important question, what to call it? 49gx? 50gx?

Please register my vote for IQ 49 gx. It's a merger of 49g+ electronics, 48gx-like keys through the efforts of OpenRPN, symbolized by IQ.

#43

Hi Marcus,

looks like I already have the "copyright" for IQ :-)
http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/archv014.cgi?read=61514


#44

Quote:
looks like I already have the "copyright" for IQ :-)

I know, but I felt that funny jokes could be repepeated without loosing their appeal. I think, the idea is much older, think of 'HAL' = 'IBM' - 0x010101 in Kubrick's "2001".


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