The world is crazy !!!!!!! :-)



#11

Ebay Link !!!

I don't get to understand!!! :-(


#12

"kahunajumpbig" indeed!

The bid history is fascinating.


#13

I doubt he will pay if he wins the auction, he has negative feedback for not paying $9.99
Better for the seller to apply common sense in order to avoid sky prices and then the buyer doesn´t want to pay, for example, ending the auction early, it is only a suggestion, but perhaps the buyer thinks that the auction includes a calculator.


#14

Yes, but there were two bidders being crazy. 8)


Edited: 9 Feb 2006, 2:24 p.m.

#15

Auction has ended: item sold for $305.00! Another battery pack is selling for $60 (starting price). Considering I can buy four N-type batteries here for $10.00 (just a 15-minute walk to the store), avoiding these auctions is cheaper and healthier :-)


#16

> Considering I can buy four N-type batteries here for $10.00

I just paid $2.29/pair and I thought that was bad. (I guess I'm getting spoiled by AA's dropping to $.40/ea. Fortunately a set of N's lasts a year or two in my 41cx. So lemmee see-- $300 would take me to approximately the year 2100.

#17

Quote:
The bid history is fascinating.

I think kahunajumpbig just put in a ridiculously large bid initially, and then some other bidder had to try many times before he could finally get the high bid. The unsuccessful bids don't show up in the bid history, but each time kahunajumpbig's bid is automatically increased (up to his limit) to stay ahead *does* show up.


#18

Right, so "kahuna" made the "big jump" first. 8)

#19

Quote:
I think kahunajumpbig just put in a ridiculously large bid initially, and then some other bidder had to try many times before he could finally get the high bid. The unsuccessful bids don't show up in the bid history, but each time kahunajumpbig's bid is automatically increased (up to his limit) to stay ahead *does* show up.

According to the bid list, seantokuji (10) put in a skyrocket bid at Feb. 6th, then kahunajumpbig (63) stepped up today until he conquered. Usually such many steps are typical for unexperienced bidders.

After all, kahunajumpbig will probably be not completely satisfied with the items he will get for >300 $ -- so he may return them as offered and take the shipping costs as tuition fees. And the winner is ... USPS!

d:-)

#20

Thomas Okken wrote:

> I think kahunajumpbig just put in a ridiculously large bid
> initially, and then some other bidder had to try many times before
> he could finally get the high bid. The unsuccessful bids don't
> show up in the bid history, but each time kahunajumpbig's bid is
> automatically increased (up to his limit) to stay ahead *does*
> show up.

No this is not how eBay works. Lets look at the bidding:

starting bid was $10

on Feb 5 gwbarbosa bids for $20, the "Current bid" is $10

on Feb 6 seantokuji bids $300, the "Current Bid" is changed to $21

on Feb-8 drsanfranscisco bids $38.89, the "Current bid" is changed to something close to $40 (essentially eBay uses money from seantokuji's max. bid to outbid drsanfranscisco on seantokuji's behalf)

from that moment onwards kahunajumpbig starts bidding up.

Each bid is shown in the bid history and each time the "Current bid" is updated to be a little bit more than kahunajumpbig's bid since it was less than the $300 bid placed by seantokuji.

Finally kahunajumpbig places a bid greater than $300 (prob. smth like $320) and the "Current bid" is changed to $305 with highest bidder kahunajumpbig.

So the bids shown are the actual bids placed by the bidders excpet the last one ($305) which is the lowest possible to outbid seantokuji 's bid. At this stage the bid increments are $5, so
we know that kahunajumpbig's bid is >= 305. If the "Current bid" was lower than $305, (e.g. $301) than we would *know* that kahunajumpbig's bid was EQUAL to $301. This is the only case where you can tell the true amount of the highest bid.

My guess is that seantokuji is feeling very releaved at the moment. It may be that he simply put a very high bid to be sure to win without really expecting the price to go *that* high. If kahunajumpbig gave up at $289, then seantokuji would be in for a very bad surprise the next time he/she checked the bidding.

This happened to a friend who bid $100 for the manual of the HP-IL interface for the HP-71B. Someone went as high as $95 and gave up,
so my friend had to shell out $100 (+ pp) for a $10 manual.

Folks, never put a very high bid well in advance. Infact never put a bid higher than what you can pay. Sooner or later you *will* regret it.

**vp


#21

Quote:


My guess is that seantokuji is feeling very releaved at the moment. It may be that he simply put a very high bid to be sure to win without really expecting the price to go *that* high. If kahunajumpbig gave up at $289, then seantokuji would be in for a very bad surprise the next time he/she checked the bidding.


This is exactly the sort of thing the eBay modified auction encourages. In addition to the dynamics of competitive bidding, which eBay shares with real auctions, there's the fact that the full impact of a high bid is deferred. You bid $300.00, and you see a current auction price of $21.00. The psychological barrier to placing an outrageously high bid is thus lowered. Then there's the fact that you can't retract your bid. This sounds like the normal practice in a real auction that doesn't allow bid retractions, but it is really quite different. There's no such thing as a "maximum" bid in a normal auction, and that's what eBay won't let you take back! Finally there's the element of time. Instead of being over within minutes, eBay auctions take place over a long time period. Since you can't retract you maximum bid, this can only work to the advantage of the seller, allowing maximum time for a silly, inebriated or otherwise impaired buyer (e. g. me on a bad day) to top an already outrageously high bid.

Snipe it. That's what I say.

Regards,
Howard.


#22

Quote:
Snipe it. That's what I say.

Couldn't agree more. You see something you like on eBay? Set an alarm to remind you five minutes before the auction ends. If you bid any time before that, you might as well go to a casino and throw your money away in an environment where you can at least watch pretty blinking lights. :-)

I hear there are even sniping services that will automate the process for you. Haven't tried them myself yet, but then again, once I got my nostalgia taken care of by scoring an HP-25 and an HP-67, I haven't really taken a serious look at eBay anyway!

#23

Look a little closer yet. kahunajumpbig was using automated bidding software. There are only 7 to 10 seconds between his bids. He appears to be new and a lot of newbies seem to use that auto bid software.

I expect that he lost control and never imagined that it would go that high. I bet that Walter will be reposting his batteries after kahunajumpbig doesn't pay.

John


#24

Quote:
I bet that Walter will be reposting his batteries after kahunajumpbig doesn't pay.

??? John, did I miss anything?

Edited: 11 Feb 2006, 10:18 a.m.

#25

...and I thought I'd get it for $20...


#26

A "reasonable" price for both items would be up to $50. More than this, is very expensive.


#27

Bidders were drunken and did it just for fun...<8^)

Pio

#28

Here's another HP-20S presently going for well over US$100:


#29

A trend! Gee, I have one of those. Maybe I could trade it for an Integral PC. Any takers? 8)

I know, take it to the classifieds. 8)

#30

I have 20S bought brand new for $28 and I hardly ever use it. May be I can put it on ebay huh?


#31

I have mint and much more useful HP 22s on ebay and it has only made it to 62 dollars. $100.00+ for a 22s? Makes no sense.

joe


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