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New List



#19

Hi

I just uploaded a new HP-41 module list with new datas and some bug fixes.
New is on the right side a part for your collection. Print out the paper and you have a full database of your HP-41 modules.

http://www.hp-collection.org/Modul%fcbersicht.pdf

Yours,
Matthias


#20

On my work I posed a lot of question. Maybe someone can answer at least one of them:

0) Are the "P-3B/C APAC 82 module" and the "C141B FSC module" a Boeing module?
1) Are all modules described as Boeing modules really from Boeing? I´m not a aviation freak and do not know the airplanes, sorry.
2) Does someone has a manual of any of the Aviation modules (Boeing, Cessna, Airforce, not the HP-Aviation)?
3) Is there a manual for the "3421 CONTROL" module or is there only the HP-41 library "Control Systems"?
4) Is it correct that "AstroROM" and "AstroROM 2" have the same manual?
5) There are 3 different colored overlays for GMAC I-III. The label on it is allways the same. What´s the use of these three overlays?
6) Hase anybody a overlay or a manual for the "Forecaster 2 module"? Does it exists?
7) What sort of module is the "HEPAX 1B"? Standard or Advanced? Does the CAT2 really not show the "-" before "HEPAX 1B"?
8) Are there really two "NavCom" modules? I have one module that says NavCom 2 in CAT2, but the overlay says NavCom.
9) Does the "Speed machine module" and the "Speed machine II module" really have the same oberlays?
A) Who produced the "Sun Shooter 41TM CO-OP Module"?
B) What is the difference between the "Dr. Z Ractrack module" and the "RACETRACK EC41-533 module"?
C) Does a special "Zengrange programmer ROM" exists, or were the 4k copied on the empty ZEPROM by standard?
D) Has someone more informations concerning the following modules: BCMC (what is this?), CvPAK, Educalc Service ROM, Flight Test, HPCC-Keys 2, HPCC-Keys 3, ICODE , JimROM, LandNav, LAITRAM XQ-2, MCODE 1A, PARIO 1A, SMI Plotter Module, SV-ROM 01, SURV -505-1/-505-2, SURV -505-3/-403-4, Tools, ToulROM

If you have a manual of one of the custom modules, please let me know. I would like to collect as many of them as possible.

Additions to my list are very welcome. Please send me any information you have, any correction on my list, so that the HP-41 community can benefit from this list. I will do my very best to keep you informed with all informations I have.

Yours,
Matthias
www.hp-collection.org


#21

Sorry, maybe this is better to read:

On my work I posed a lot of question. Maybe someone can answer at least one of them:

0) Are the "P-3B/C APAC 82 module" and the "C141B FSC module" a Boeing module?

1) Are all modules described as Boeing modules really from Boeing? I´m not a aviation freak and do not know the airplanes, sorry.

2) Does someone has a manual of any of the Aviation modules (Boeing, Cessna, Airforce, not the HP-Aviation)?

3) Is there a manual for the "3421 CONTROL" module or is there only the HP-41 library "Control Systems"?

4) Is it correct that "AstroROM" and "AstroROM 2" have the same manual?

5) There are 3 different colored overlays for GMAC I-III. The label on it is allways the same. What´s the use of these three overlays?

6) Hase anybody a overlay or a manual for the "Forecaster 2 module"? Does it exists?

7) What sort of module is the "HEPAX 1B"? Standard or Advanced? Does the CAT2 really not show the "-" before "HEPAX 1B"?

8) Are there really two "NavCom" modules? I have one module that says NavCom 2 in CAT2, but the overlay says NavCom.

9) Does the "Speed machine module" and the "Speed machine II module" really have the same oberlays?

A) Who produced the "Sun Shooter 41TM CO-OP Module"?

B) What is the difference between the "Dr. Z Ractrack module" and the "RACETRACK EC41-533 module"?

C) Does a special "Zengrange programmer ROM" exists, or were the 4k copied on the empty ZEPROM by standard?

D) Has someone more informations concerning the following modules: BCMC (what is this?), CvPAK, Educalc Service ROM, Flight Test, HPCC-Keys 2, HPCC-Keys 3, ICODE , JimROM, LandNav, LAITRAM XQ-2, MCODE 1A, PARIO 1A, SMI Plotter Module, SV-ROM 01, SURV -505-1/-505-2, SURV -505-3/-403-4, Tools, ToulROM

If you have a manual of one of the custom modules, please let me know. I would like to collect as many of them as possible.

Additions to my list are very welcome. Please send me any information you have, any correction on my list, so that the HP-41 community can benefit from this list. I will do my very best to keep you informed with all informations I have.

Yours, Matthias www.hp-collection.org


#22

Hello Matthias,

Some partial answers:

3) Is there a manual for the "3421 CONTROL" module or is there only the HP-41 library "Control Systems"?

The only HP-41C ROM I know related to HP3421 is the 44468A DataAcquisition-Control Pac and there is a manual for it.

7) What sort of module is the "HEPAX 1B"? Standard or Advanced? Does the CAT2 really not show the "-" before "HEPAX 1B"?

Hepax Sandard and Advanced use the same ROM 'HEPAX 1x'. The letter 'A' to 'D' indicates the software revision. AFAIK, there is a leading '-', at least on the C revision. I will check all the revisions on Emu41 (I own all the revision images, but only one real module...)

D) Has someone more informations concerning the following modules: BCMC (what is this?), CvPAK, Educalc Service ROM, Flight Test, HPCC-Keys 2, HPCC-Keys 3, ICODE , JimROM, LandNav, LAITRAM XQ-2, MCODE 1A, PARIO 1A, SMI Plotter Module, SV-ROM 01, SURV -505-1/-505-2, SURV -505-3/-403-4, Tools, ToulROM

Do you mean BCMC or BCMW? BCMW was (still is?) a french company who was involved a lot in HP applications. I have ROM images of some BCMW ROMs, some partially corrupted, so I never successed to make them run or even understand their purpose.

I have some information on LAITRAM XQ-2, but no ROM or ROM image.

SV-ROM1 is a EPROM set (not a module) made by Serge Vaudenay (can be found somewhere, maybe on Emmanuel Compes site)

ToulROM was a EPROM set made by PPC-Toulouse (France). 'Toul' in french is pronounced like 'tool' ...

J-F


#23

Hello JF!

I still use your MFENTRY.ADD

* Title: HP-41 Entry Points
* Time stamp: Tue Jan 7 13:49:07 1986
* Number of globals: 757
Is there somewhere a more complete list arround? With XF, Time, HPIL, etc.?

Ciao.....Mike


#24

Hi Mike,

This file was generated from the HP SDS II development system, I don't remember the exact tool I used to do it.
So it's the only official list I know.

J-F


#25

Hi JF!

Seems I shoud type it as it helps a bit to read trace outputs.

Ciao.....Mike

BTW: isn't there a list in David ASS? at least in the add-on? ...

#26

Hi J-F

I do not know the "44468A DataAcquisition-Control Pac". Do you have a manual for this?
I got a HP-41 Library called "Control Systems" with the module. WHat´s the use of this library?

Matthias


#27

Matthias,

You can find more info on it at TOS (as we still have to call it like this...) in the HP-IL peripheral section.

J-F

#28

0) Are the "P-3B/C APAC 82 module" and the "C141B FSC module" a Boeing module?
1) Are all modules described as Boeing modules really from Boeing? I´m not a aviation freak and do not know the airplanes, sorry.

>P-3B or P-3C is a Lockheed aircraft named Orion.
APAC for Aviation PAC and 82 for 1982 (?!)
C141B made by the same manufacter is a Starlifter.

7) What sort of module is the "HEPAX 1B"? Standard or Advanced? Does the CAT2 really not show the "-" before "HEPAX 1B"?

>I only know three versions of Hepax ROM : 1B, 1C and 1D.
I had a Standard Hepax with 8K RAM and 16K ROM, and an Advanced Hepax with 16K RAM and 16K ROM. I read that Hepax Memory module (8K) and Hepax Double Memory Module (16K) also existed.

C) Does a special "Zengrange programmer ROM" exists, or were the 4k copied on the empty ZEPROM by standard?

>Programmer was a ROM made by Zengrange Ltd for burning Zeprom Module on a Zeprom Programmer, ... I have a Gunzen with 'HP' module and had another one with 'Zengrange' reprogrammable Zeprom Module. Zengrange Module policy was quite curious.

D) Has someone more informations concerning the following modules :
- BCMC : Certainly BCMW, specially for merchandising
- HPCC-Keys 2 and HPCC-Keys 3 : cf. HPCC UK
- LandNav : by Warren Furlow ?!
- PARIO 1A : ProtoPARIO ?!
- SV-ROM 01 : or ROMSV-01 for ROM Serge Vaudenay 01
- ToulROM : Toulouse Rom (former PPC Chapter), 4 versions (1A, 1B, 1C, 1D)
To be continued...

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#29

Hi Matthias,

I have the ROMS (modules) of CvPAK, Laitram XQ-2, and EPROMs of ICODE, MCODE 1A, & PARIO 1A. I also have the 'original' manuals of all the above. I'm currently on vacation until the end of the month in Destin, Florida so have no access to them at this time. I'll contact you upon my return to Houston.

Best, Wilson


#30

Darn! Who had the idea to name his module MCODE 1A as I did too. <VBG>

Ciao.....Mike


#31

Hmmmm, I wonder which of the three MCODE 1A ROMs I have EPROMs of are yours (if any) Mike. All three are different!!! Any ideas?? Again, I'll not have access to my 41 stuff until I return home on Nov. 2nd. so can't provide specifics until then.

Best, Wilson


#32

Hi! None of the MCode modules are from me as I never published it, I only mentioned it on my list. For more see here: http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/forum.cgi?read=64041.

To be clear: when I tell Matthias to kick out -MCODE 1A and TOOLS 1A from his list I had in mind they where my two collections of functions and programs I had set up in the W&W RAM-BOX (and accidentally mentioned it's singular existence on my HP41). I did not know there are other modules named -MCODE 1A, existing as HW or as SW for a RAM-BOX or an emulator.

Ciao.....Mike


#33

Hi Mike,

I'm especially interested in 41 ROMs so this one really has me curious. I'm willing to send you a cat listing of the MCODE 1A's I own upon my return to Houston (early Nov.) in hopes that you are willing to compare them with your's. From what you stated I'm guessing that you never distributed your MCODE 1A's. Is it possible that 4 different ROMs with the same name and rev's exist?? Seems impossible but...

Best, Wilson


#34

No, not impossible. It would even be possible that two MCode programmers baptized independantly their ROMs "MFFOMCR" (My Favourite Forty-One MCode Routines") <VBG>. I suppose, you agree that the chance for more than one "-MCODE 1A" is somewhat higher.

Ciao.....Mike

#35

Thanks a lot Wilson

#36

Hallo Matthias!

First: tnx a lot 4 publishing your list -- when will be the nxt meeting in Allschwil? <VBG>

Second: your question D) throw out -MCODE 1A and TOOLS 1A.
There was, is, and never will be a piece of hardware of it. You probably found them in my list at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/nutem/romim.htm. Those two are my collections of programs and functions in the RAM-BOX, the first is from walking through "MCode 4 beginners" (only SEED and RN are my own work), and the second one contains some everydays tools and a barcode printer (my own, started from the scratch) for the HP2225B as for long time I had no SquidBC.

Ciao.....Mike

Here the listing of RN and SEED (CX only, IIRC move only 1k (x400, x800, xC00) Without seed part of time is used as seed and stored in buffer #9 - which is deleted by OFF/ON or PACK.

B400 04E C=0    ALL          
B401 35C PT= 12
B402 250 LC 9
B403 260 SETHEX
B404 3F0 PERSLCT
B405 130 LDI
B406 0C0 CON 192
B407 108 SF 8
B408 1AD *
B409 16A NCGO 5A6B
B40A 084 D
B40B 005 E
B40C 005 E
B40D 013 S
B40E 0F8 C=REG 3/X
B40F 361 *
b410 050 NCXQ =CHK_NO_S
B411 158 M=C
B412 3E9 *
B413 08C NCXQ =GSB768
B414 033 JNC +06 B41A
B415 038 RDATA
B416 000 NOP
B417 2EE ?C#0 ALL
B418 321 *
B419 0C3 CGO 30C8
B41A 2A0 SETDEC
B41B 198 C=M
B41C 106 A=C X
B41D 130 LDI
B41E 003 CON 03
B41F 146 A=A+C X
B420 03C RCR 3
B421 0A6 A<>C X
B422 35C PT= 12
B423 250 LC 9
B424 010 LC 0
B425 050 LC 1
B426 2F0 WDATA
B427 3E0 RTN
B428 08E N
B429 012 R
B42A 3E9 *
B42B 08C NCXQ =GSB768
B42C 07B JNC +0F B43B
B42D 389 *
B42E 140 NCXQ 50E2
B42F 038 RDATA
B430 05A C=0 M
B431 07C RCR 4
B432 3F0 PERSLCT
B433 2A0 SETDEC
B434 266 C=C-1 X
B435 158 M=C
B436 0A6 A<>C X
B437 270 RAMSLCT
B438 375 *
B439 03C NCXQ =GOSUBH
B43A 015 *
B43B 0FC NCXQ 3F05
B43C 046 C=0 X
B43D 07C RCR 4
B43E 2A0 SETDEC
B43F 10E A=C ALL
B440 04E C=0 ALL
B441 35C PT= 12
B442 250 LC 9
B443 210 LC 8
B444 090 LC 2
B445 050 LC 1
B446 130 LDI
B447 003 CON 03
B448 135 *
B449 060 NCXQ =MP2_10
B44A 10E A=C ALL
B44B 04E C=0 ALL
B44C 19C PT= 11
B44D 090 LC 2
B44E 050 LC 1
B44F 050 LC 1
B450 0D0 LC 3
B451 090 LC 2
B452 1D0 LC 7
B453 01D *
B454 060 NCXQ =AD2_10
B455 084 CF 5
B456 0ED *
B457 064 NCXQ =INTFRC
B458 158 M=C
B459 0EE B<>C ALL
B45A 375 *
B45B 03C NCXQ =GOSUBH
B45C 01A A=0 M
B45D 0B9 *
B45E 04A NCGO =RCL

Edited: 6 Oct 2004, 9:13 a.m.


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