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 ▼ Mic Unregistered Posts: 190 Threads: 82 Joined: Aug 2012 05-16-2013, 01:34 AM Hello, here are screenshots of the new HP Prime. The calculator can draw anything you want : any relation between x and y. For example, sin(x)>sin(y) or x Mod y = 3 etc... The graphing commands are particularly impressing : EDIT : 1st real picture Edited: 16 May 2013, 9:01 a.m. after one or more responses were posted ▼ Walter B Unregistered Posts: 4,587 Threads: 105 Joined: Jul 2005 05-16-2013, 01:55 AM You may call me conservative but that's a bunch of nice examples where color doesn't add any value - b/w graphics would have sufficed. d:-/ Edited: 16 May 2013, 1:56 a.m. ▼ Gerson W. Barbosa Unregistered Posts: 2,761 Threads: 100 Joined: Jul 2005 05-16-2013, 02:12 AM Just one counterexample: ▼ Walter B Unregistered Posts: 4,587 Threads: 105 Joined: Jul 2005 05-16-2013, 07:13 AM You can do that with a slashed line instead, for example. d:-) ▼ Tim Wessman Unregistered Posts: 1,278 Threads: 44 Joined: Jul 2007 05-16-2013, 08:26 AM Yup, when you get right down to it no color could be just fine. It is just kind of expected at this point though. There are some good things that can come out of it. High power draw is definitely not one of them. However, I guess when you get right down to it, anything beyond fingers and toes is not needed for math... :-P TW bhtooefr Unregistered Posts: 113 Threads: 8 Joined: Feb 2007 05-16-2013, 09:09 AM You could, but color makes it easier to see. My main concern (and I see the 39gII does it too (but not as badly, there's only a couple pixels between an exponent and its base)) is how high the exponents are above the base. Will that formatting be tweaked to lower the exponent by a few pixels, so it doesn't look like a new line? Gerson W. Barbosa Unregistered Posts: 2,761 Threads: 100 Joined: Jul 2005 05-16-2013, 12:02 PM Why bother? Let's get back to that :-) ▼ Ángel Martin Unregistered Posts: 1,253 Threads: 117 Joined: Nov 2005 05-16-2013, 12:52 PM Now you're talking !!! ;-) Thomas Klemm Unregistered Posts: 735 Threads: 34 Joined: May 2007 05-16-2013, 03:27 AM There's an unmatched left parenthesis in this formula: It appears HP was never good in handling parenthesis. Cheers Thomas BTW: Is this a Moiré pattern in that graph? ▼ Gilles Carpentier Unregistered Posts: 468 Threads: 17 Joined: May 2011 05-16-2013, 01:19 PM HP50G Edited: 16 May 2013, 1:54 p.m. ▼ Thomas Klemm Unregistered Posts: 735 Threads: 34 Joined: May 2007 05-16-2013, 03:25 PM Quote: For sure we've never seen a Truth plot before. Somehow I had difficulties to match your plot with the purple plot of the brochure until I noticed the difference:  Kind regards Thomas ▼ Gilles Carpentier Unregistered Posts: 468 Threads: 17 Joined: May 2011 05-16-2013, 03:50 PM Where is this brochure you refer to ? The 50G do it, but it's very very slow... Edited: 16 May 2013, 3:56 p.m. ▼ Thomas Klemm Unregistered Posts: 735 Threads: 34 Joined: May 2007 05-16-2013, 04:14 PM cf. Message #19 Posted by Mike Morrow: Quote: Here's the direct link to HP's May Presentation on the Prime. WolframAlpha is running in a timeout. That plot could become our new benchmark. I wonder how long it took the HP Prime to draw it. Cheers Thomas ▼ Gilles Carpentier Unregistered Posts: 468 Threads: 17 Joined: May 2011 05-16-2013, 04:55 PM Thanks Thomas, It seems the right equation to get the plot of the Prime is more something like : but not exactly ;) The equation in the brochure is not the good one ... Edited: 16 May 2013, 5:11 p.m. Gerson W. Barbosa Unregistered Posts: 2,761 Threads: 100 Joined: Jul 2005 05-16-2013, 02:40 PM Quote: It appears HP was never good in handling parenthesis. Definitely! ▼ Gilles Carpentier Unregistered Posts: 468 Threads: 17 Joined: May 2011 05-16-2013, 04:00 PM With my 50G, i've not this problem I've a parenthesis 1/Sqrt(2*PI) .... ▼ Gerson W. Barbosa Unregistered Posts: 2,761 Threads: 100 Joined: Jul 2005 05-16-2013, 04:07 PM Quote: I've a parenthesis 1/Sqrt(2*PI) .... Same on my 48GX. Only the leaflet is wrong. fhub Unregistered Posts: 1,216 Threads: 75 Joined: Jun 2011 05-16-2013, 04:28 AM Quote: Hello, here are screenshots of the new HP Prime. WOW, that's really looking impressing! Seems to be the most powerful calculator currently - except my TI-92+ of course. ;-) Can't await to get the emulator ... Franz svisvanatha Unregistered Posts: 112 Threads: 9 Joined: Jan 2011 05-16-2013, 10:16 AM Ouch. Enter key placement !! ▼ Mike Morrow Unregistered Posts: 758 Threads: 9 Joined: Jul 2007 05-16-2013, 12:44 PM Quote: Ouch. Enter key placement !! That must be a "ouch" of pleasure at the first HP calculator in 30 years that has ENTER placed appropriately...above those /x-+ keys with which the use of ENTER is most intimately linked. It was gross incompetency in ergonomics that allowed the ENTER to remain on the left after the /x-+ keys were moved right. ▼ Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) Unregistered Posts: 882 Threads: 23 Joined: Jan 2005 05-16-2013, 01:15 PM Quote: It was gross incompetency in ergonomics that allowed the ENTER to remain on the left after the /x-+ keys were moved right It was gross incompetency in ergonomics that allowed the /x-+ keys to be moved right. ▼ Mike Morrow Unregistered Posts: 758 Threads: 9 Joined: Jul 2007 05-16-2013, 11:01 PM Quote: It was gross incompetency in ergonomics that allowed the /x-+ keys to be moved right. I believe that was forced by the radical keyboard re-organization that was necessary by the unfortunate choice of landscape layout for the Voyagers. When the post-Voyager HP machines returned to the more natural portrait configuration, the ENTER and /x-+ keys should have been re-united. It doesn't really matter which side, as long as all five keys are on the same side. Personally, I find as a right-handed user that the right side of the keyboard is the best for these keys. I have no idea why HP in 1971 decided these five keys should ever have been on the left side, given that only about 20 percent of the world population is left-handed. Perhaps it was an evil left-handed (forgive the tautology) HP manager's conspiracy. :-) I started with limited use of somebody else's HP-35 as an EE undergrad in 1972, and got my own HP-67 in 1977. I've experienced all variations from the time they were introduced. All except the unique new HP Prime layout. The Prime will soon be available, and its ENTER and /x-+ layout is perfection for the very first time in HP history, at least for right-handed people! ▼ Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) Unregistered Posts: 882 Threads: 23 Joined: Jan 2005 05-17-2013, 03:05 PM Hi, Mike. Quote: I have no idea why HP in 1971 decided these five keys should ever have been on the left side, given that only about 20 percent of the world population is left-handed. I am right-handed but prefer to have on the right side the digits, I don't understand why so many people prefer operators there... :) Strange thing is that I am equally used to the numeric keypad on my computer keyboards, with operators scattered on top and right sides and enter on bottom right. Funny how our brains work. Greetings,Massimo svisvanatha Unregistered Posts: 112 Threads: 9 Joined: Jan 2011 05-16-2013, 09:18 PM No, it was an "Ouch" of pain. While I can appreciate the ergonomic advantage of having the ENTER key above the -+*/ keys, I started my HP life at the time the 42s came on the market. I find it unnatural to have the ENTER key anywhere but on the left, and the arithmetic operators on the right. Mike Morrow Unregistered Posts: 758 Threads: 9 Joined: Jul 2007 05-16-2013, 01:13 PM Here's the direct link to HP's May Presentation on the Prime. This original user (but not purchaser...way too expensive) of the original HP-35 is impressed by this latest generation.

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