Yet another new scientific HP calculator !



#26

Named HP 300S+, evolution of the SmartCalc 300S.

Enjoy :
http://www.calc-bank.com/index.php?mod=news&ac=commentaires&id=1729


#27

Sometimes I feel as if HP is trying its first steps again into a former domain area... Almost like someone learning how to walk again when recovering from backbone injuries after a car crash. The main difference is that in this case there was no actual car crash, just the backbone injuries caused by bad driving.


#28

It's more like beating the last dollars out of the HP brand until it becomes worthless in the USA, too. I got an HP-30S for just one Euro several years ago. One dealer grossly overestimated the brand over here in DE and bought lots of it. Bad mistake.

#29

Just saw some larger pics and, from a larger version, I could see it--yet again 'STO' is a shifted operation. Why?

Edited: 6 Nov 2012, 9:58 p.m.


#30

Because few people actually use sto, especially on a low end machine like this.

TW

#31

Save one direct function. Never found that to be a problem, just the opposite. Great idea!

The above mentioned 30S has a direct STO and a shifted RCL, btw. Used it a couple of minutes yesterday.

#32

An other Casio clone...


#33

You speak about which Casio model ?


#34

Quote:
You speak about which Casio model ?

Maybe Casio FX300ES PLUS?

HP manual.

Casio manual.

If you find on a HP calculator these keys: [o ' ''], [DEL], [AC], it's very suspicious...

Edited: 4 Nov 2012, 11:32 a.m.


#35

That Casio machine (it's called the FX-85 GT Plus in the UK) is nice, apart from its default "recurring decimal" mode. I'm getting fed up with students writing "2/3=0.6"! I don't think that HP are foolish to copy it: it works well, and at least in the UK it would be a major selling point for a calculator to be a clone of either the FX-83 or FX-85 models. (Amongst schoolchildren, I mean - and these are surely the biggest market for scientific calculators!)

I showed the older HP-300S machine (the blue one) to a class a couple of years ago. They loved it! The blue colour was a hit, and they liked its different appearance (compared to the ubiquitous Casio). But I never see it (or any other HP machine) in shops in this country...

Nigel (UK)


#36

Correctly this is the Casio FX 85ES, and this copy is the Kinpo's project.

Edited: 4 Nov 2012, 12:50 p.m.

#37

characterless ...


#38

The first error from HP is not to understand that when you buy and HP you don't buy a calculator but an HP....
The second one is not to imagine that HP customers are smart enough to see differences between a copy/clone and a genuine HP.
The third one is not to test correctly their recent products. If you can't trust a product you end up not using it. Firmware update is fine but it is only a poor work around and lot's of customers doesn't want to be testers. Just imagine the consequences of a bug during an exam...This will not appeal students to HP products...
The fourth one can be the last ;-(
I'm ready to pay a premium price if I can be assured that the calculator is 100% reliable and bug free. Not sure this is the current situation.


#39

I do agree.

#40

Quote:
The second one is not to imagine that HP customers are smart enough to see differences between a copy/clone and a genuine HP.
HP might not care much about what a few hundred professional calculator users think or want. The target audience are US students not wanting TI and Casio brands. Who cares how it works as long as it does work for the educational purpose it has been designed for.

#41

Quote:
HP might not care much about what a few hundred professional calculator users think or want. The target audience are US students not wanting TI and Casio brands.

The problem is, that target audience also numbers a few hundred.

#42

Y'see, this new 300s item and HP's infusion of DFE (Direct Formula Entry) are perfect examples of why I don't feel so bad about endorsing the 33S and 35S. Although we still have the 50G that sill clings to the RPN/RPL roots of a scientific model, for a non-graphing alternative, I'd rather hold onto my RPN keystroke entry 33S and 35S despite their flaws in the event that HP stops manufacturing RPN-based non-graphing scientific calcs.

Although HP will probably still manufacture successors to the 50G incorporating RPL, I just hope HP hasn't abandoned RPN for its next line of programmable scientific non-graphing calcs.


#43

Quote:
Although HP will probably still manufacture successors to the 50G incorporating RPL [...]
Certainly, the 50G ist the last RPL calculator. There's a thread where TW made a few comments. No - he didn't state it's the end for professional graphing calculators, that's just my conclusion.

Quote:
[...] I just hope HP hasn't abandoned RPN for its next line of programmable scientific non-graphing calcs.
They have. No new RPN calculator since 2007, and no software maintenance for this most current RPN calculator. The 15C LE doesn't really count here. It was a gesture, advertised as 'great gift' - do not use, display it!

No, it's finally over.


#44

RPN is doomed to oblivion! Only RPN claculator in HP's free distribution program is the HP 50G. I bet 99% of the students use the 50G in algebraic mode.

http://www.greenlivingonline.com/feed-item/hp-donates-27-million-calculators-students-worldwide

#45

Lets me ask...presuming you went to HHC 2012, is this what you are allowed to divulge?


#46

Quote:
Lets me ask...presuming you went to HHC 2012, is this what you are allowed to divulge?

I wasn't - it's just common sense. If I were, an NDA would have kept me quiet, of course. But you knew this, right?
#47

Quote:
I'd rather hold onto my RPN keystroke entry 33S and 35S despite their flaws in the event that HP stops manufacturing RPN-based non-graphing scientific calcs.

And I will hold on to my 15C, 42S and WP34S :)
I have a 33S and 35S too, but I use them very rarely... A combination of the 35S design and 33S functionality would have been nice.

PS: And I am not so much interested in what HP comes up with next. I am almost sure I won't like it anyway. Can't wait for the next WP model though :)


#48

Just as well, I also am holding on to my 11C, 15C, 42S, 32 (E and SII) as well as a host of classics, clamshells and Charlemagnes.


Edited: 12 Nov 2012, 9:43 p.m.

#49

Sorry i tell a lie: He is not characterless ... he is pitiful ...

#50

I like the look of the display. It would be nice to have that display on a programmable RPN model...


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