Spiral Binding

[db (martinez, ca.)]

Someone here mentioned that the 15CLE manual is not spiral bound and that HP should have made it that way. I went to the Fed Ex copy place (formerly Kinko's). They cut the glued binding off and spiral bound my manual for about six and a half bucks.

[Jim Yohe]

Did you take another previously spiral "HP" bound manual to them so they could match it?

[Michael Kussmaul]

It's a bit of a mystery to me, why HP not just shipped a scanned version of the original manual (I guess only scanning would work, because at that time there was no digital-version of the manual).

This way a lot of typos in the new manual would have been ruled out. They could just have added a leaflet with additional information (e.g. broken self-test, regulatory terms, etc).

[Lincoln R.]

If they shipped a scan people would complain about the image quality or something. Because they shipped it the way they did, people are complaining about typos. It would seem that for a lot of these issues, HP just can't win.

[Paul Gaster]

Also you cannot search a scanned version of the manual to find things quickly.

I see HP now has the 15C manual for download:
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15C support page: link

Hope the Advanced Functions Handbook will follow soon.

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[Brian Walsh]

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Google for

hp15c.org advanced functions pdf

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Why not save others time and post the link yourself?

Here it is.

Edited: 29 Sept 2011, 2:38 p.m.

[Alexander Oestert]

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Why not save others time and post the link yourself?

Here it is.

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Why spoil all the fun of googling it yourself? ;)

Seriously, I posted from my iPhone 3G and found it quicker to write down the search terms than to copy the URL, that's all!

But what I'm asking myself is: would it really have been that much more expensive to print the new 15c LE handbook in black and *blue* like the newly released pdf is instead of only black?

[David Hayden]

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But what I'm asking myself is: would it really have been that much more expensive to print the new 15c LE handbook in black and *blue* like the newly released pdf is instead of only black?

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Yes. apparently printing any color at all is substantially more expensive than plain black & white. The original Owners Handbook had blue on every page (in the header and footer).

I suppose a nice compromise might have been to change the headers and footers to black and then printed just the pages with images in color.

Dave

[Katie Wasserman]

More than lack of color is the paper quality of the manual. The paper in 15C LE manaul is just a step above newsprint. The orignal 15C manual had very nice quality paper.

[Jeroen Van Nieuwenhove]

The Advanced Functions Handbook is also included in the emulator. See Help > Advanced Functions Handbook. It is the same scan as the one on hp15c.org and the one on the HP Museum DVD.

Edited: 29 Sept 2011, 3:36 p.m.

[Paul Gaster]

I think I should have been more clear. I hope they release a new Advanced Functions Handbook that is searchable and not a scan. I had seen the scanned version before, but there are times when it's nice to be able to search. HP would need to redo the whole thing for this to be possible though, so I am not sure it will happen.

[Steve Simpkin]

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HP would need to redo the whole thing for this to be possible though, so I am not sure it will happen.

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Tim had mentioned they were working on this but had not finished it before the 15LE was shipped. It should be available for downloading when it is finished.

[Marcus von Cube, Germany]

Both manuals are, as far as I know, a community effort conducted together with HP. Give them the time they need and you will get your Advanced Functions Manual. Then let it print and bind in a print shop for small money and you are lucky.