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 ▼ Geoff Quickfall Posting Freak Posts: 1,083 Threads: 126 Joined: Sep 2006 08-13-2011, 12:19 AM funny, but I was taught to round in a statistics course the following way. If the digit was even followed by a five then round up. If the digit followed by a five was odd, round down. Statistically this resulted, when using a large enough sample, a 50/50 ratio of rounding up for 5 and rounding down for five. ```132.5 = 133 133.5 = 133 ``` cannot find the cite for this anywhere. Calculators certainly do not follow this rule. This means, on a large enough sample the rounding is on majority, upwards, that is .5 is always rounded up even though it is a midway point between the higher and lower answer. Any thoughts, Cheers, Geoff still playing with the 41CL but will get involved with the 34S soon, well after the book and HCC... ;-) ▼ Paul Dale Posting Freak Posts: 3,229 Threads: 42 Joined: Jul 2006 08-13-2011, 12:28 AM This is what is known as rounding half to odd. It is well known and unbiased as is ruonding half to even. The latter is more popular. These should only be used if the fractional portion is exactly 0.5. If e.g. it is 0.5001, then you should always round up. If you are only calculating the single extra digit then every 5 rounds weirdly of course. The 34S does rounding half even by default. It supports six other rounding modes but not rounding half to odd. - Pauli ▼ Marcus von Cube, Germany Posting Freak Posts: 3,283 Threads: 104 Joined: Jul 2005 08-13-2011, 04:43 AM This rounding on the 34S is not done for FIX display, only for rounding the intermediate results of the internal algorithms to register format. ▼ Walter B Posting Freak Posts: 4,587 Threads: 105 Joined: Jul 2005 08-13-2011, 05:38 AM Please see page 44 of the manual :-) ▼ Paul Dale Posting Freak Posts: 3,229 Threads: 42 Joined: Jul 2006 08-13-2011, 05:51 AM Nicely written. The default is round half even which isn't mentioned on page 44 :-) - Pauli ▼ Walter B Posting Freak Posts: 4,587 Threads: 105 Joined: Jul 2005 08-13-2011, 05:56 AM Thanks. Added - though it's for math geeks only as stated there ;-) ▼ Paul Dale Posting Freak Posts: 3,229 Threads: 42 Joined: Jul 2006 08-13-2011, 06:08 AM Nah, it is for people who care about getting correct answers :-) Most maths geeks wouldn't know what to do with the different rounding modes :-( Neither would most programmers numerical or otherwise :-( One quick way to detect many numerically unstable algorithms is to repeat the same computation after changing the rounding mode (e.g. start with round to -infinity and change to rount to +infinity). A stable algorithm will produce a similar result regardless and an unstable one will often produce wildly varying results. This doesn't catch all unstable algorithms but it is an easy starting point. - Pauli

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