Hp-42s display problem



#3

I'm looking for confirmation on the root cause on a display failure on a 42 I just acquired.

Half of pixels in one ROW are out. Does it make sense that this would be a bad Zebra connection? Unless more drop out I think it might be foolish to open this up to repair.

Agree?

Thanks for the feedback!



#4

Twisting the case slightly should prove/disprove the theory.

I have seen cracked LCD's along one corner, typically the top left or right that exhibit that behavior. The crack is not visible from the front, only from the back when the zebra is removed.

The missing row - which side and which row? From that I can figure out where that element terminates on the LCD.


#5

Here is a picture


#6

That's probably a failed driver IC.


#7

If that's the case, is a replacement only available from another 42 or is the 17BII have the same IC?


#8

Please look at this:



IMHO there's not much on the pcb you can swap.

#9

All 16 rows on the left side terminate along the top left edge of the LCD. The row in question would be right below the top right twist tab as seen from the back.

If it isn't a contact issue, it is either a failed driver row on the IC or a failed lead frame bond on the die. FWIW, I've found that mechanical failures of the lead frame out-number electrical die failures about ten to one. That said, that element lands pretty much dead center on the right edge of the die so I'd be inclined to think it is electrical, not mechanical.


#10

Well, I pulled the calculator apart because as I twisted, another half row blinked on and off. I deduced, it was probably a bad connection in need of repair.

Well, I do believe it is. When I got it apart I immediately noticed green corrosion in areas near the zebra.

Well I cleaned as delicate as I could with warm water, vinegar and a q-tip. I think there are 2-3 traces that need repair. YES the corrosion is this bad, It reminds me of a 65 I repaired that had a completely exploded battery.

Anyone have a good source of VERY FINE trace repair? I think the conductive trace pen is the only way to go here, agreed?


#11

Maybe this will solve.

But an advise from Randy would be highly appreciated.


#12

I Purchased a Micro Tip Silver Trace Pen last night from Cicuitworks. My only concern is that the tip may be too large to work with (.8mm)

The traces are about half that width I think.

I'll give it a try. I want to use it on the 65 with the exploded battery anyways.


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