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Stick It!



#6

Got a question from a person. Wants to know what epoxy or glue was originally used to attach a logo to the bezel on an HP voyager calculator. Anyone ever know what they actually used? Also what would be the best metal-to-plastic bonding glue made today if the original isn't available.

Thanks much.


#7

I have received replacement logos from HP customer service and later, from EduCalc. The one from HP and one of the two from EduCalc came with a square of double sided foam tape attached, the last logo came without any adhesive. The foam tape that came with the logos is quite thin, maybe 1/32 inch. I haven't been able to find anything thinner than 1/16 inch in any store. You might try browsing 3M's website, they used to be pretty good about supplying generous samples of their products. I looked there some time ago without success. The problem is that 3M makes so many things and their product lines aren't (or weren't) organized by product type but rather by the industries they serve. As far as I know, the adhesive itself is called "acrylic" and is what is used on all kinds of self-adhesive items. You can buy it from 3M in a form called "transfer adhesive" which is just the sticky part stuck on a release liner on a roll. It comes in at least two strengths - low tack and high tack - and different thicknesses. You press it onto the back of your substrate material and then cut the sandwich to size with a die, and you have a self-adhesive item with release liner ready to be handled for distribution. You could get some of this transfer adhesive and try to build up a stack of it to work with the logo (the thicker transfer adhesive is about .01 inch) only the stuff is difficult to work with before you attach it to something.

#8

The last time I had a logo fall off I used a silicon glue, Shoe Goo. It is use to repair worn or torn areas on shoes and rubber boots or to seal rafts, tents and other items that need to be watertite. It can be found at most stores that have sporting goods. Wal-Mart will have it in both the shoe and sporting sections. It comes in a toothpast type tube and runs about $5.00.

#9

Just a thought, could some substance like cotton be soaked in glue and used under one of the logos to fill the space yet bind the logo to the aluminum?


#10

It is interesting to me that you say "bind the logo to the aluminum" - on my units the logo fits in a hole in the aluminum bezel and sticks to the plastic case underneath.

I have new logos as I said, but I've never stuck them on - somehow it was enough knowing I have them! Also, why stick them on just to have them fall off again? My 12C that I found in the street - I don't remember if I ever had the original logo. I do remember that the first thing I found (after the button cells that attracted my attention in the first place) was the bezel, it had come completely off. Also I seem to recall that the plastic had a layer of transfer adhesive under the entire bezel and the logo and it may be that HP relied on just having the edges of the logo adhere. The high-tack version of transfer adhesive is amazingly strong - but the idea that my 12C had it is inconsistent with the way the entire bezel popped off. Currently, my 12C has no logo and the bezel and the LCD window are held in place with scotch tape. I just took a look at my 15C though - I still have the original (to me - I got the calculator at a sidewalk sale) logo which is loose and scratched up. It is also held in place with scotch tape. I lifted it to see how it had been attached and there is a neat quantity of what appears to be RTV in there. I say a neat quantity meaning it looks like it might have been done at the factory - just enough glue as if done by metered equipment. I think the human tendency (I know it's mine) is to use too much. This makes me feel better about Shoe Goo, which sounds like an extra-strong kind of RTV.

Maybe HP only supplied the thin double sided tape with the replacement parts that customer service sent out, to save people the trouble of finding and applying the correct adhesive.


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