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Strange HP71



#8

I got a nice HP71 recently, but the configuration is a little bit strange. Can anyone shed some light on this ?

The VER$ command returns :
HP71:1BBBB HPIL:1B INST:A TCNV:A FMT:A
So it seems to be an early version, with HPIL, but what's the INST/TCNV/FMT stuff ?

It has a module plugged on the leftmost port, reading :
5061-7290
HP-71
DATA ACQ

The MEM command reports 49616 bytes.
The showport command reports :
0.05 16384 2
1 65536 2

Actually, there is a special RAM expansion port in the card reader slot with the following front label :
71 M/M ! Hand Held
32K RAM! Products
But this doesn't make for the 76K of rom mentioned above.

The CAT :PORT(1) command lists a lot of stuff, starting with :
LEX3421 LEX 7520 09/06/85 12:00 1
BIN3421 BIN 356 09/06/85 12:00 1
TCONV LEX 243 09/06/85 12:00 1
...
and so on with other LEX, BASIC and SDATA files .

It also takes a noticeable while for the machine to power up, probably some RAM check ?

What a strange beast !
BTW, the 71 rules !!


#9

Sorry for the poor formatting of my message, this forum seems not to take into account newlines and tabs.
Next time I'll do better.


#10

Hi;

Maybe you have alrady found it; anyway, if you don't mind...

There are some (good!) formatting features explained here. (Thanks, Dave) and they are somewhat easy to understand and use (if you have once used WordStar or you get into some Unix/Linux Text Processors, you won't feel unconfortable). Have a brief look and you'll judge by yourself.


#11

Thank you, here is my post again the 'right' way :


------

I got a nice HP71 recently, but the configuration is a little bit strange. Can anyone shed some light on this ?


The VER$ command returns :

	HP71:1BBBB HPIL:1B INST:A TCNV:A FMT:A[\pre]

So it seems to be an early version, with HPIL, but what's the INST/TCNV/FMT stuff ?


It has a module plugged on the leftmost port, reading :

[pre] 5061-7290 HP-71 DATA ACQ[\pre]


The MEM command reports 49616 bytes.
The showport command reports :
[pre]
0.05 16384 2
1 65536 2[\pre]


Actually, there is a special RAM expansion port in the card reader slot with the following front label :

[pre] 71 M/M ! Hand Held
32K RAM! Products[\pre]


But this doesn't make for the 76K of rom mentioned above.


The CAT :PORT(1) command lists a lot of stuff, starting with :
[pre]
LEX3421 LEX 7520 09/06/85 12:00 1
BIN3421 BIN 356 09/06/85 12:00 1
TCONV LEX 243 09/06/85 12:00 1
...


and so on with other LEX, BASIC and SDATA files .


It also takes a noticeable while for the machine to power up, probably some RAM check ?


What a strange beast ! BTW, the 71 rules !!

#12

Turn off the machine. Remove all the modules. Do a memory reset or init 1, 2, 3. Then add one module at a time and run the commands, which will show you exactly what is on the respective module. You won't have do much informaiton to wade thru to isolate what belongs to where and why. Some modules might actually interact and set infomation differently when they appear together. This way you will now for sure. Diagnose them seperately. Then plug them all in and see if they return identical information as they did when only one was in the machine.

#13

Hi!

The delay you've encountered happens due to the IL module looking for devices on the loop. There's a command to disable the IL module and speed up the turn on response, but I don't have my manuals here at work. Something like, "off io".

The extra stuff in the "VER$" command has to do with LEX files (language extension files) installed on the machine.

Hope that helps some.

Michael

#14

regarding: 5061-7290 HP-71 DATA ACQ

I've noticed a lot of HP41C modules with 82xxx and 00041-xxxxx P/Ns are marked with 5061-xxxx numbers.

My 1986 HP catalog has a P/N 82479A, HP-71 Data Acquisition Pac ROM listed as an accessory for the HP3421A data acquisition/control unit.

Briefly, it says the pac adds over 40 keywords in 6 areas: front panel, strip chart, monitor, data logger, report program, data transfer.

Strangely, this catalog doesn't list the HP41C module for the 3421A - it must have come out later.


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