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HP Museum copy cat
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Post: #9
03-12-2002, 07:20 AM
 Yes, pure plagiarism. He doesn't even credit or link to the HP museum site. For those thinking of bidding look at the listing carefully. Nowhere does it say this calculator works, only that: "Since this is vintage electronics -- it's sold as is.". He then goes on to list all the original functions of the item. In the notes at the bottom he does tell the buyer the implications of bidding including: "* Unless otherwise noted, items are sold as-is no warranty expressed or implied. All items are sold as described, so be sure to read the item description carefully. I have sold many items on eBay and have an excellent satisfaction record!" PS I don't know the seller and I'm not accusing him of trying to rip anyone off, but the listing as displayed does have some huge get outs if anything went wrong. ▼
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Post: #11
03-12-2002, 01:26 PM
"As Is" does not necessarily mean "not working" but you should bid as if it does. I have bought a lot of "non-working" calculators that turned out to work. I have bought a lot of "working" calculators that turned out "not" to work. Actually, I find that "not-working" calculators turn out to be good deals a lot of the time. The problem with "as is" is that it likely means the seller knows something he is not wanting to disclose. Ask questions. The most important thing in an auction is the description of the item being sold; and not the specs. Most bidders, hopefully, know what they are buying. A link to some page with specs is a better way to do this. Too many words is just a way to mask a few words about the description. I don't like the "as is" term. But there is good reason that a legit seller might want to use it. I sold a calculator once to a guy, who opened it up, removed a part, installed his bad part, then claimed it did not work. Problem, for him, was the calculator that I sold him had never been opened. It was very easy to spot the fact that he opened the calculator. The tampering was easy to spot in the photos that I took and I pointed it out to him. He got caught and did not put up any fuss.
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Post: #12
03-14-2002, 12:28 AM
As a long-time ebay buyer/seller - I view the "As-Is" term as "No Whining", and am willing to accept less than what an item might bring simply to move it down the line to someone who cares/needs it more than I do. Likewise - only under severe "internal" conflict can I pay a "working" price for an "As-IS" item. But . . . there are common failure modes in things I know how to fix (like reel to reel tape decks) that the description lets me know what my exposure is. anyway - I do try to decribe what works and what does not work so that buyers can make an informed choice
Post: #13
03-12-2002, 11:25 AM
That's about the biggest Ebay listing I've ever seen! Dave should stop paying for his website and just post it on Ebay every week! "Questions to the Seller" could be routed to the appropriate part of the page for Forum, Classifieds, etc. As long as he sold something every week, why should Ebay complain?
Post: #14
03-12-2002, 12:02 PM
After looking at this auction for a while, I noticed some discrepancies:
At the very top, it says:
At the top of the "Description" section, it says:
Just below that, it says this:
After all the stuff lifted from the Museum, it says: A little further down, the pictures show a calculator, printer manual, card reader manual, and card reader.
So I wonder: (Doesn't that sound like the punchline of a stereotypical nerd joke?!)
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