Things 35s - Purely Superficial...

[Dallas Osborne]

…but nice for the comfort of carry and ease of use.

(My thanks to CalcPro for the extra 33s case and Kinko’s for the bind job).

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Edited: 17 Aug 2007, 4:54 p.m.

[Paul Brogger]

About that Kinko's binding -- did it obliterate any text?

Nice idea! (Now if we could get H-P to print it in three or four colors . . . )

[Dallas Osborne]

Nope...

All opened up...

Another page...

Edited: 17 Aug 2007, 5:51 p.m.

[Ed Look]

How much did Kinko's charge for he spiral binding and how much did Calcpro charge for the 33S case?

[Egan Ford]

I get stuff spiral bound often at Kinko's for about $5 US. Usually 8.5x11 paper. My question is who removed the old binding? How?

[Dallas Osborne]

Kinko's charged $10 for binding and CalcPro charged $11 for the case; it fits beautifully.

Kinko's lopped it off there in the studio; it took off about 3mm at the most.

Edited: 17 Aug 2007, 6:18 p.m.

[brianh]

This makes me wonder just how much extra it would cost HP to spiral bind these manuals in the first place. Perhaps a buck or two, at the most, at the printers. The slight extra cost would be more than worth it.

[Paul Brogger]

Thanks for the idea. Excellent!

(I assume they cut off the old binding for you with a bulk paper cutter?)

[Vincze]

I like binding system very much. I know where I am going this weekend.

I was going to wait for PDF to come out and make my own with comb binder I have, but it is not spiral binder. Spiral is much nicer.

Edited: 17 Aug 2007, 7:14 p.m.

[Karl Schneider]

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(My thanks to CalcPro for the extra 33s case and Kinko’s for the bind job).

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Kinko's prepared me a correct-size, double-sided spiral-bound HP-16C manual directly from the B&W PDF on the earlier MoHPC CD-ROM. Price was about $40, but that included printing. Quality was excellent.

-- KS

[Egan Ford]

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Kinko's prepared me a correct-size, double-sided spiral-bound HP-16C manual directly from the B&W PDF on the earlier MoHPC CD-ROM. Price was about $40, but that included printing. Quality was excellent.

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Good to know. I may do the same after I receive the new color PDFs (still waiting on my DVD).

I just returned from Kinko's. The $4.26 to spiral bound the 35s manual was more than worth it. The original binding was very stubborn (more than usual for that type of binding), as if it did not want to reveal it's contents. IMHO, manuals should not require two hands to operate.

Kinko's said that requests to spiral bound existing paper bound books is not uncommon. The machine that prepares the book for spiral binding also does the cropping of the glue binding. Sadly only black plastic is available. I have some older manuals that would look better with white. The process of inserting the spiral binding is manual (I've watched them before). I speculate that you could order any color, size, and type (metal or plastic) online and put it on yourself.

[Vincze]

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The process of inserting the spiral binding is manual (I've watched them before). I speculate that you could order any color, size, and type (metal or plastic) online and put it on yourself.

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Yes, I have seen done too. Not with plastic spiral though, but plastic coated metal I believe, and then use needle nose pliers to put slight bend so spiral do not come out. I guess you could always have them bind for you with black, and when you get white spiral, you could remove black, and insert yourself.