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Nice, huh?



#8

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRISTINE-BOXED-HP-48GX-Calculator-w-Bag-Eng-Manuals_W0QQitemZ300064346149QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3294QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm tempted.
Anyone had dealings with this guy?


#9

He is an honest seller. I bought a calculator accessory from him many months ago. It arrived quickly and as described.

Namir


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#11

I think that
"Shipping costs expressed, are the actual shipping costs I have to pay (it's shipped by the official Portuguese postal system CTT) plus £1.35 for packaging and handling, there are no hidden fees."
Is ambiguous.
Its not clear whether the £1.35 is included in the £9.60 or not. Presumably an email would clear this up.
The thing is, a brand new (and arguably *much* better) 50g is about £15 more in the UK.


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#13

Quote:
But near the top it says

Bid with confidence, this is a non hidden fees auction, you only pay the winning bid plus shipping.


So its £125 + £9.60 (but then theres the insurance if you use paypal).
Anyway, I don't see that the £1.35 is (definitely) extra. It *may* be included in the £9.60). Like I said, an email should sort it.
If it *is* extra, then he's breaking the rules, yes? (I don't know - I've never bought anything on ebay, and probably never will. Too many of them seem like cowboys).

He has two of them. Heres the other
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HP-48GX-Calculator-128Kb-w-Bag-Software_W0QQitemZ300063336802QQihZ020QQcategoryZ50577QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem


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#15

Obviously I'm missing something.
I see £125 + £9.60 + £3.40
Or did you mean the other one?

#16

Quote:

Anyway, I don't see that the £1.35 is (definitely) extra. It *may* be included in the £9.60). Like I said, an email should sort it.


No need to send the e-mail, but thank you for not just going with ebaycalcnut and put the hypothesis that I'm not trying to deceive anyone :)

The £1.35 are already included in the £9.60 (the actual shipping costs I have to pay are £8.25 like quoted in www.ctt.pt and I take £1.35 for packaging and handling (which I think it's a fair amount)

jb.morgado


#17

Quote:


No need to send the e-mail, but thank you for not just going with ebaycalcnut and put the hypothesis that I'm not trying to deceive anyone :)

The £1.35 are already included in the £9.60 (the actual shipping costs I have to pay are £8.25 like quoted in www.ctt.pt and I take £1.35 for packaging and handling (which I think it's a fair amount)

jb.morgado


Kudos to you for taking the time to clarify.

#18

Quote:
If I may start criticizing...

Before you start your pontifications once more (we all enjoy and appreciate them), You are welcome to ask the seller. There is a link on the right hand side of the screen,
OR.. you can click on this one.
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#20

Hi,

yes, Hudenai's auction description and photos are as it should always be.


But I think the item picture of Coburlin's 11C auction says it all, too;-)

Even on that small picture you can clearly see,

that the calc is heavily used, and comes with the wrong slipcase.


Regards

Raymond

#21

Quote:
I realize you are trying to goad me Allen/Hudendai. However, I will take the high road as far as you are concerned. I obviously know about ask seller a question; I'm not a novice. That does not excuse poor listing practices. I am just trying to get sellers to be more clear!

Well, I think it's clear enough if you are not chasing ghosts and trying to find un-honesty were it doesn't really exist.


Now, what I really want you to share with us (and I believe many users of this forum are wondering) is, after all, what eBay calculator seller are you? Since the really hard way in witch you try to disrupt other sellers auctions in eBay cannot be only a matter of diverging opinion.

jb.morgado

Edited: 2 Jan 2007, 5:22 a.m.

#22

I am not trying to defend anyone, but...
I am based in the UK. If I buy something and it is lost in the post, the UK Post Office will pay a maximum of £20 compensation (if you are lucky, more likely the cost of postage). So does the seller refund you in this situation? Many sellers say that they are not reponsible as long as they take reasonable care.
But, am I right in thinking that if you paid with PayPal, and complain to them, they are very likely to issue some sort of charge-back in any case? Indeed there are sellers who won't accept PayPal for this reason.
Hence, if the seller feels that they will have to pay regardless of fault because of PayPal, it is reasonable to insist on insurance. When I buy something (not necessarily a calculator), I think "is this expensive enough that I would be upset if it was lost and I got no compensation?", and if so I go for the insurance. BTW, the British Post Office is pretty good, and I have very rarely lost things.


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#24

Quote:
I have no issue with requiring insurance.

Well, it seems you have.

Quote:
However, why if just paid by Paypal? Yes, Paypal has protections for buyers, but still, just make it required for everyone!

Well, it's not you that will choose what I will or will not do with my auctions Sir.

I don't find it fair to make it required for everyone, since anyone that buys in eBay should be old enough to make their own decisions, and since the alternative shipping method (without shipping insurance) has a package tracking service, the buyer may be free no to choose insurance and go with the auction statement that says that 'if the buyer doesn't pay for insurance there will be no refund in case the package gets lost or damaged by the shipping company.
But if he pays by PayPal, even if he deliberately doesn't choose insurance and the something happens to the package, PayPal, doesn't really care and just fully refunds the buyer (taking the money from the seller account to do so) in case the package doesn't arrive at the destination.

Edited: 2 Jan 2007, 5:05 a.m.

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For interest, for an extra £1 to £1.50 you can get additional insurance of up to £200 to £400 depending on the destination from Royal Mail.


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For interest, for an extra £1 to £1.50 you can get additional insurance of up to £200 to £400 depending on the destination from Royal Mail.

Well, I forgot to say, but the insurance I ask for (£3,40), it's also the one I have to pay. The problem is that this is not only insurance, the Portuguese postal services force me to choose signed personal delivery if I am to choose insurance, so in fact, £1,70 go for insurance and £1,70 go for personal signed delivery.

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If I may start criticizing...

No comments...

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1) Seller insists on insurance if you use Paypal. It does not seem fair or right. In fact, I do not know European rules, but I know this is against ebay rules for US or Canadian auctions. You may not charge differently for different payment methods in US/Canada.

What doesn't seem right is that if the buyer expressly wishes to do without shipping insurance and then the package gets lost, PayPal still takes the money out of the seller account to fully refund the buyer if he makes a claim since the package didn't arrive at the buyer destination (before you start your criticism again, I know what I'm talking about because it happen to me).

As such, is very fair and honest to do this, and it's used to give a choice to the ones not paying by PayPal if they want insurance or not, since if they don't pay by PayPal, the seller doesn't get charged in case the package doesn't arrive to the buyer.
Besides that, if you still care so much with grammatics as you did some days ago about the Hudenai auction that mentioned LOT, then 'extra fees for using PayPal' like you say in another post, it's not really correct is it? This is not an extra fee to use PayPal, it's a different shipping method ... with insurance.

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2) Seller says at top you only pay winning bid and shipping, and then in details adds 1.35 pounds for packaging and handling. C'mon, be straight with the buyers!

If you were straight with your comments, this is what you would do:
1st, you would check the shipping service webpage the seller (me, yes) offers and see if that the price quoted there is actually the one quoted added by the 1.35 GBP.
2nd, if you couldn't do that, before starting your wondering in this forum, you would use the option in the auction to ask seller a question and clarify the issue.

I already changed the auction to clarify that, I'm sorry to the others that had doubts, but since I say in the top that they only need to pay for the auction plus the shipping costs, I though it was clear that nothing would be added (not even the 1.35GBP, those are already included in the expressed shipping prices) besides that.
Some of you made purchases from me in the past and for my part, I'm sure I've always been correct and honest with you and I thank you for having done the same with me.

Have a nice new year,

jb.morgado


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