Hi All,

How is it going. Hey I have got an HP-32S here. Thats not a 32SII, nope, thats a 32S.

It has some weird problem, where its kind of like the keyboard sticks, except truly I am not sure. If it is a sticking key, you cant figure out what key it is. But sure as shooting, it gets stuck, it dont proceed to calculate. If you give it a whack, usually it gets going again. Anyway its an intermittent problem too.

The reason I dont huck it straight to the trash, is I know that even busted they have some value, like for spare parts, like maybe somebody could take 2 busted ones and make 1 good one.

Is there an HP-32S doctor out there? Look the answer to this problem is I give it to somebody, for spare parts. But whats not the answer is give it to some huckster, who puts it on eBay saying "works great" just because I gave it to him.

If you are an HP-32S doctor, tell me your credentials, prove to me you wont rip somebody off on eBay selling it as mint. If you check out with me, I'll just mail it to you, for free. Then I'll go get a working one on eBay.

If you like this idea, tell me who
you are at analogee at
and if you know how to fix something like that
then I'll just mail it to you. I think thats better than
throwing it into the trash.



To visit the web sit of FixThatCalc click here

Randy who fixes various models is very good at it. You may have to wait since he is probably busy fixing other machines. Randy fixed an HP-42S that I had bought. That machine suffered from a dim LCD display. Randy did a very good job. The HP-42s LCD is fixed (I guess replaced) and compliments its very good cosmetic condition.



Heh Norm, long time no hear.

Your 32S - are any of the keys loose? That is to say, wobbling around, rocking side to side when touched? If so, that's the problem key(s) and there is nothing that can be done to repair - it is a parts donor.

If everything is tight and you ever see a digit or function name appear when you turn it on, that's the problem key. It's leaking due to either a switch failure (the conductive material is flaking off) or there is contamination inside. Sometimes they'll come back to life with several cycles through an ultrasonic cleaner if it is just contamination.



Do you mean that you put the entire calculator into the ultrasonic cleaner without any disassembly? I would not expect the LCD and its connections to survive the operation. (Not to mention the printed legends on the keyboard).

-- Richard


Do you mean that you put the entire calculator into the ultrasonic cleaner without any disassembly?

In a word, yes.

I've submerged and ultrasonically cleaned just about every HP calculator in one way or another. LCD's? It's a glass sandwich, nothing to fear there. Elastomeric display connections? They're watertight.

Of course there are plenty of cautions across the product line but Pioneers and 48's routinely take the plunge in one piece without incident.


Or is that "Captain Zener Rides Again"? Anyway - it's good to see your typing Norm. I think you should try Randy's keyboard fix. If it works; you can install red LEDs!


Wow you all have good memories, glad you did not forget about me.

Yep, Red LED's rule, but nothing has changed, because I use LCD (HP-32S) for ordinary calculating. The Red LED's are just too special. They are like fine wine, and only brought out for special occasions.

Well, anyway, like I am saying, I would send it along to the expert doctor who can fix it, he can take 2 busted ones, make 1 good one.

As to reasons for me not posting a couple years... there werent any jobs? Had to put business before pleasure. This lousy economy---good luck if you can find work. First they took away our calculators, then they took away our jobs. Finally found some work... but still no decent calculators!!

Captain Zener


Hey, Norm;

Comming back to stay? Hope so!

About the HP32: concerning functionality, it seems to me it is the closest Pioneer to the HP34C, exception made to the LCD and register numbering/ALPHA. And it has some extra features...

Best regards.

Luiz (Brazil)


Bom dia o senhor Luiz,

do you know Chinese? They have exactly the same sentence: "Hao jiou bu jian", literally translated: "Well long (time) not see", meaning: "Are you well? Didn't see you for a long time". Just crossed my mind. Strange coincidence.

Best regards, Walter


Alo Walter; bom dia!

I'm 'in deep' fond of languages, and local expressions are the ones that 'catch' me, mostly when not usual in our 'knowledge base'. Thanks for adding this one!

I'll be attending French, German and Latin classes this year (yeap. Latin!). French and German are actually a sequence, mostly because I stopped studying these languages for too long, and Latin will be the first time. I also began studying Dutch in the beginning of 2006, but I see that German knowledge will help a lot, so I decided to conclude German prior to go ahead with Dutch for now.

In time: as you used a very common sentence in Portuguese, let me just add a tip. The very corresponding English sentence for 'Bom dia o senhor Luiz' would be 'Good morning the mister Luiz'. The article 'o' (correspoding to 'the' when the gender of the noum is male) may be suppressed in this case; hence "Bom dia senhor Luiz" would be an improved sentence.

About Chinese: some years ago, I was told that Chinese languages would take place as strong languages, mainly Mandarin and a second language (in Portuguese, it is named 'Cantonês'; don't know its name in English, just guess). But when I knew it's needed about 20.000 Kanji for basic conversation (about 45.000 exist, right?), I actually felt I should keep learning the ones based in our 26-symbol based alphabeth. In Japan they use two syllable sets and some Kanji (about 1,000 basic, 5,0000 tops, IIRC), but in China they use so too many symbols... Writing in Romanji (I guess 'Romanji' applies in this case, too...) makes it easier, at least for me, to imagine the phonemas. In any case, I did not actually loose the interest on learning other languages, Chinese ones in the list. Knowing facts about them 'tease' the mind... In time: is it true that there is no third-person in Japanese (he/she/it)?

Thanks again.

Luiz (Brazil)

Edited: 17 Dec 2006, 8:42 p.m.


Hiya Norm!

Luiz, it will be difficult for Chinese, of any spoken variation, be it the Emperor's Mandarin or our lowly dirt kicker's Southern Cantonese (that's what is en ingles), to be a language that is used internationally as heavy as English or Spanish or French exactly because of what you said about its ideograph based nature.

I have heard once that a traditional or classical Chinese college level graduate would know about 1 E 4 (in HP calc lingo) characters. The other three are Western, and therefore alphabetic languages giving them automatically more flexibility. French and especially Spanish are very "learner-friendly" because of their regularity and structure. And almost oddly, the relative lack of structure and regularity in English has made it adapable to cultural changes due to time and changes due to technology and science and so, quite applicable and useful in many contexts.

I'd hate to have to navigate a future HP calculator with Chinese characters on it. It'd be a cool thing to have and look at, but using it would be... not so cool, and reading the manual even worse!


Hi Ed,

you wrote:

French and especially Spanish are very "learner-friendly" because of their regularity and structure.

Fully agree for Spanish. There, I would add the benefit of a clear pronounciation "as written".
And almost oddly, the relative lack of structure and regularity in English has made it adapable to cultural changes due to time and changes due to technology and science and so, quite applicable and useful in many contexts.

It's even better for Chinese: no flexion, almost no grammar, and the proven ability to adapt to all the changes of 2000 years. Just more stress for us d;-)

Edited: 19 Dec 2006, 5:42 p.m.


Oooohh! I think not: no alphabet! But, I'll agree part way- those of us who like to memorize... it'll work for them.

Still, it won't make for very user-friendly calculators!


Boa tarde Luiz,

muito obrigado para a sua resposta. We seem to have a common hobby, although most of my classes I attended decades ago. Good luck with your Latin - that was the class I hated best in school (after 9 years, well, not too early). But you have a better start, coming from a Roman language and doing this voluntarily.

Thanks for your kind support in Portuguese. This is the last language I dealt with (my 8th) because my company has affiliates in Portugal. I think it's always beneficial to know a bit of the local language, and I hate to admit the damn old Latin helped a lot in understanding. To tell you the truth, I used the "o" on purpose, because I remember having heard "bom dia o senhor engenheiro" once, but that's another story.

About Chinese: I crosschecked and found the official Chinese (i.e. Mandarin) has about 8e4 "han zi", however, most of them are used very seldom. According to wise people, 2e3 are taught at school, and 5e3 shall be sufficient for everydays life. Japan imported quite some of them around 500 A.C., and "Kanji" comes from "han zi". I gave up when I was supposed to know around 400, because I couldn't discriminate all those different slashes by heart anymore. We learned it with books where 95% of the text was handwritten in traditional Chinese as they use in Taiwan, not the simplified "pu tong hua" they use in PRC nor the "pin yin" form written in Romanji. Anyway, it's fun and a very good training for the brain and what we call "visual memory". And if you ever come to China, it will help you a lot! Because e.g. Cantonese is completely different in pronounciation, but the "han zi" have the same meaning all over China.

Cumprimentos, Walter


Edited: 18 Dec 2006, 10:33 p.m.


Hello Mr. Vieira,

I regularly read postings on the HP forum, and yours are part of those I appreciate most. I own a few dozens of HP calcs, and I love to play with them. Apart from that, my surprise came from these words :

In time: is it true that there is no third-person in Japanese (he/she/it)?

because I've been learning Japanese for some time. So, I may answer your question !

The third-person actually exists in the Japanese language :

-"me" or "I" translates into "watashi" (often implicit, it's not considered very polite to emphasize on oneself).
-"we" translates into "watashitachi".
-"he" translates into "kare".
-"she" translates into "kanojo".
and so on...

Interestingly, written with kanji, "kanojo" uses the two kanji "kare" and "onna" (woman). That leads us to the great complexity of the Japanese writing system; it uses 2 phonetic "alphabets" and the kanji which allow people to distinguish words having the same pronounciation but different meanings...

I totally agree with you, it teases the mind to a great extent !

I wish you a happy Christmas ! (In advance, but i'll be away for a few days)

Greetings from France !



Merci beaucoup, Marc; I appreciate both your kind words and the explanation.

My 15 Y.O. daughter simply loves manga and anime, and she bought a book that explains (does not actually teaches) Japanese through manga, mainly. She is now able to write and identificate all hiragana and katakana (hope I wrote them correctly) and is now trying some Kanji. I must admit I am the one now to follow her footsteps soon...

Cheers and thanks again.

Luiz (Brazil)

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