in the voyager and pioneer series, what models or s/n have painted keys as opposed to molded?
painted keys voyager
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12-16-2003, 04:59 PM
12-17-2003, 12:05 AM
HP certainly had painted key labels on HP-12Cs, 15Cs,
I have seen HP-15Cs with HP-12C key labels shaded
What really interests me is what the technology was Does anyone have such a 12C or 15C?
Thanks, tom, for reminding us of this interesting bit Wlodek
12-17-2003, 12:37 AM
Wlodek wrote: "...also 16Cs with 15C _and_ 12C labels below the 16C labels." How do you know that the keys below are 15C, not 11C ? [VPN]
12-17-2003, 12:19 PM
Let's say I want to hit eBay for old Voyagers and Pioneers. Is there a sure way to tell (say, through the serial number) whether a unit has painted or moulded keys?
12-17-2003, 07:28 PM
I have a Voyager (12c) made in the US in 1987 that has painted over keys. I didn't notice it until recently. Don't know how this affects the overall quality of the calculator, except for the paint on the keys wearing off eventually.
12-17-2003, 07:42 PM
IMO, the number of Voyagers made with (re)printed keys was very small, impossible to tell by serial number. It was not a widespread practice. All Pioneers made in Indonesia (except for 42S service spares) had painted keys.
12-17-2003, 09:37 PM
Why paint over these keys to begin with? How expensive could it have been to just use new keys instead of reusing them? Seems cheaper to just scrap the molded keys that you don't want and use new keys to start from scratch. Couldn't have saved more than a few cents per key.
12-20-2003, 09:23 PM
VPN wrote: Does anyone here know of HP-11Cs with keys that show traces of HP-12C or HP-16C labels below the 11C labels? That would be very interesting! Keith asks why they repainted keys instead of using "new" ones. These are not keys from old voyagers returned for repair and recycling, if that's what you meant. These are HP-15Cs and HP-16Cs made late in the product lifecycle, when HP might have thought it not worth making large batches of 15C and 16C keys. Instead, they could have painted over newly made 12C keys, or used a production line that made small batches of all the different keyboards, but left some traces of what had been made in the previous batch. Regards, Wlodek |
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