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12C Anniversary Edition - Katie Wasserman - 05-17-2006 http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.asp?type=item&code=135691 it looks like there is a 25 anniversary edition of the 12C platinum in addition to the Prestige. Seems like HP is getting a lot of mileage out of one calculator with several different faces. It'll certainly sell to collectors but I'm not sure who else.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Vieira, Luiz C. (Brazil) - 05-18-2006 Hi, Katie; thank you for pointing this link out. One single comment of mine: it seems that, after all of the tryouts, HP decided to get back to the very first Voyager color scheme; would that be the best one afterall? What else is new... Cheers. Luiz (Brazil)
Edited: 18 May 2006, 12:31 a.m.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Adam Wild - 05-18-2006 There is a data sheet for this item I found here:http://www.classic-calculators.co.uk/12cpa.pdf Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Frank B. (Germany) - 05-18-2006 Dynatech (www.dynatech.de) reports also about two new HP calculators, the HP-39 GS und HP-50 G (date May 12, 2006). Someone already mentioned this at comp.sys.hp48, but no responses yet.
Frank.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Ronald - 05-18-2006 See background info on site of HP:
http://h41111.www4.hp.com/calculators/nl/nl/pdf/12c_anniversary.pdf
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Bruce Horrocks - 05-18-2006 The 25th Anniversary Edition of the 12C Platinum was featured on the cover of the March/April (V25N2) edition of Datafile.
HP's intention is to sell the anniversary edition instead of the regular edition for six months or so, and then revert to the regular one (once the anniversary is over). So in that sense, everyone will buy one, not just collectors.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Mr. E - 05-18-2006 How reliable are your HP sources regarding their marketing intentions?
When will the 25th Anniversary edition be available to the public?
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Bruce Horrocks - 05-19-2006 I don't have an exact date, only that it shuld be on sale (in the UK at least) from July onwards. This fits in with the "on sale for 6 months" plan. Not sure whether that is a little too convenient, though. :-)
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Mr. E - 05-19-2006 Thx! I'll be looking for it in the USA. I couldn't handle the Platinum mostly because I couldn't read the damn keypad and the keypress reliability was questionable. Hopefully, the Anniversary edition addresses both those issues.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Mr. E - 05-22-2006 Here is the official word from Gary Cantwell @ HP:
"It (12C Platinum Anniversary Edition) is currently available in-store at J&R in New York. It will be available online at Hpshopping and SMB this week. It will be in
Gary
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Walter B - 05-22-2006 Any news about availability in Europe?
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Woody Larkin - 05-23-2006 The HP 12c Platinum Anniversary Edition is now available at the HP Shopping website: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/generic_subcategory.do?storeName=storefronts&landing=handhelds&category=calculators&subcat1=financial&catLevel=2 Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Tizedes Csaba [Hungary] - 05-24-2006 And what about HP15C Anniversary Edition???
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Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Mr. E - 05-25-2006 One would think, huh!
According to the HP15c.org site, only 30k would be purchased. Not sure that's enough to ramp up the factory for, especially if it undercuts the newer models.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Gene - 05-25-2006 It's not just ramping up a factory. There would have to be code programmed into ROM, updated components, testing, probably corporate presentations about alternative uses of capital, etc. For 30,000 units at perhaps $20 profit each? (Wild guess on the profit...I have no idea) Lost in the rounding of HP's financials. That's why there haven't been any 15c anniversary editions.
The 12c anniversary edition appears to be the 12c platinum with a different skin. That's much cheaper to do that resurrect a model that has not been produced in nearly 20 years.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Jeff O. - 05-26-2006 Gene, Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Gene - 05-26-2006 Nope. I think it takes much less capital to change the color front of a calculator than to redevelop a ROM, create new keys, test it, get a part number, etc. The 12cp 25th anniversary IS the 12cp with a new skin. that's all. There are no 15c's in production, so it would be a much bigger deal. Add to that though that the 12c and 12cp sell many many more units than the 15c ever did. HP is essentially assured of selling tons of 12cs. Other than a few of us nuts, how many 15c's would be bought?
30,000 probably isn't enough to consider doing. Just MO.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Jeff O. - 06-02-2006 Gene, Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Eric Smith - 06-02-2006 The 2AF1 chip doesn't have enough ROM or RAM for the 15C. The 15C has always required an extra "R2D2" chip to provide the additional memory. The 2AF1 was probably designed specifically for the 12C, so it might or might not have the hooks for the extra R2D2. Even if it does, you're going to have to get that R2D2 manufactured, not just the 2AF1 with different ROM code. I suspect that Agilent would not be willing to manufacture the 2AF1 chip for any new customers at any reasonable price. Probably the only reason they were selling it to HP was that it was developed before/during the HP/Agilent split. I think it would be possible to develop a new 15C chip as a drop-in replacement for the 2AF1 and get 15 prototype pieces (not all of which would be functional) for under $6,000, using the MOSIS AMIS 1.5 micron process.
To start volume production, there would be up-front NRE for the I've actually done some VHDL design work on the core of a Nut-compatible processor, and run it in an FPGA. Monte Darymple is even further along on such a design in Verilog with his NEWT project, though his aim is a high-performance upgrade for the 41C. If I thought I could actually sell enough 12C-to-15C upgrade chips, I'd be willing to finish the design work. But I doubt very much that enough people are willing to make a serious commitment (i.e., money up front or at least in escrow) to make this happen.
Re: 12C Anniversary Edition - Monte Dalrymple - 06-02-2006 Actually, becauee the NEWT design is a superset of the CPU
The costs are not as exhorbitant as you might expect. I just
Designs like this don't need the latest bleeding-edge process
Monte
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