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Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Mic - 11-04-2012 Named HP 300S+, evolution of the SmartCalc 300S.
Enjoy : Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Luiz C. Vieira (Brazil) - 11-04-2012 Sometimes I feel as if HP is trying its first steps again into a former domain area... Almost like someone learning how to walk again when recovering from backbone injuries after a car crash. The main difference is that in this case there was no actual car crash, just the backbone injuries caused by bad driving.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - George Litauszky - 11-04-2012 An other Casio clone...
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - bluesun08 - 11-04-2012 characterless ...
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Thomas Radtke - 11-04-2012 It's more like beating the last dollars out of the HP brand until it becomes worthless in the USA, too. I got an HP-30S for just one Euro several years ago. One dealer grossly overestimated the brand over here in DE and bought lots of it. Bad mistake.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Mic - 11-04-2012 You speak about which Casio model ?
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - George Litauszky - 11-04-2012 Quote:Maybe Casio FX300ES PLUS? HP manual. Casio manual. If you find on a HP calculator these keys: [o ' ''], [DEL], [AC], it's very suspicious... Edited: 4 Nov 2012, 11:32 a.m.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Nigel J Dowrick - 11-04-2012 That Casio machine (it's called the FX-85 GT Plus in the UK) is nice, apart from its default "recurring decimal" mode. I'm getting fed up with students writing "2/3=0.6"! I don't think that HP are foolish to copy it: it works well, and at least in the UK it would be a major selling point for a calculator to be a clone of either the FX-83 or FX-85 models. (Amongst schoolchildren, I mean - and these are surely the biggest market for scientific calculators!) I showed the older HP-300S machine (the blue one) to a class a couple of years ago. They loved it! The blue colour was a hit, and they liked its different appearance (compared to the ubiquitous Casio). But I never see it (or any other HP machine) in shops in this country...
Nigel (UK)
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - George Litauszky - 11-04-2012 Correctly this is the Casio FX 85ES, and this copy is the Kinpo's project.
Edited: 4 Nov 2012, 12:50 p.m.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Bunuel66 - 11-04-2012 The first error from HP is not to understand that when you buy and HP you don't buy a calculator but an HP.... Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Xavier A. (Brazil) - 11-04-2012 I do agree.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - NateB - 11-04-2012 I like the look of the display. It would be nice to have that display on a programmable RPN model...
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Thomas Radtke - 11-05-2012 Quote:HP might not care much about what a few hundred professional calculator users think or want. The target audience are US students not wanting TI and Casio brands. Who cares how it works as long as it does work for the educational purpose it has been designed for. Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Don Shepherd - 11-05-2012 Quote:
The problem is, that target audience also numbers a few hundred.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - bluesun08 - 11-05-2012 Sorry i tell a lie: He is not characterless ... he is pitiful ...
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Matt Agajanian - 11-06-2012 Y'see, this new 300s item and HP's infusion of DFE (Direct Formula Entry) are perfect examples of why I don't feel so bad about endorsing the 33S and 35S. Although we still have the 50G that sill clings to the RPN/RPL roots of a scientific model, for a non-graphing alternative, I'd rather hold onto my RPN keystroke entry 33S and 35S despite their flaws in the event that HP stops manufacturing RPN-based non-graphing scientific calcs.
Although HP will probably still manufacture successors to the 50G incorporating RPL, I just hope HP hasn't abandoned RPN for its next line of programmable scientific non-graphing calcs.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Matt Agajanian - 11-06-2012 Just saw some larger pics and, from a larger version, I could see it--yet again 'STO' is a shifted operation. Why?
Edited: 6 Nov 2012, 9:58 p.m.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Tim Wessman - 11-06-2012 Because few people actually use sto, especially on a low end machine like this.
TW
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Thomas Radtke - 11-07-2012 Quote:Certainly, the 50G ist the last RPL calculator. There's a thread where TW made a few comments. No - he didn't state it's the end for professional graphing calculators, that's just my conclusion.
Quote:They have. No new RPN calculator since 2007, and no software maintenance for this most current RPN calculator. The 15C LE doesn't really count here. It was a gesture, advertised as 'great gift' - do not use, display it!
No, it's finally over.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Thomas Radtke - 11-07-2012 Save one direct function. Never found that to be a problem, just the opposite. Great idea!
The above mentioned 30S has a direct STO and a shifted RCL, btw. Used it a couple of minutes yesterday.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Harald - 11-07-2012 Quote:
And I will hold on to my 15C, 42S and WP34S :)
PS: And I am not so much interested in what HP comes up with next. I am almost sure I won't like it anyway. Can't wait for the next WP model though :)
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - hpnut - 11-07-2012 RPN is doomed to oblivion! Only RPN claculator in HP's free distribution program is the HP 50G. I bet 99% of the students use the 50G in algebraic mode. http://www.greenlivingonline.com/feed-item/hp-donates-27-million-calculators-students-worldwide
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Matt Agajanian - 11-12-2012 Lets me ask...presuming you went to HHC 2012, is this what you are allowed to divulge?
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Matt Agajanian - 11-12-2012 Just as well, I also am holding on to my 11C, 15C, 42S, 32 (E and SII) as well as a host of classics, clamshells and Charlemagnes.
Edited: 12 Nov 2012, 9:43 p.m.
Re: Yet another new scientific HP calculator ! - Thomas Radtke - 11-13-2012 Quote:I wasn't - it's just common sense. If I were, an NDA would have kept me quiet, of course. But you knew this, right? |