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Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Eddie W. Shore - 02-26-2012 If you like messages and prompts: HP 33S or 35S. 35S wins in the ability to program to a label's specific line. However, no built in Polar and Rectangular conversion (though there are plenty of programs to work around this). 33S has a "unique" design, built in Polar and Rectangular conversion, less bugs, cheaper, but you are restricted to 27 program labels - period. If you like landscape calculators, fast numeric routines, the HP 15C could be a way to go. IHMO it looks the best of the three and if you have a classic 15C, the new edition does not disappoint. (Just don't use PSE) However, they can be super hard to find. Of the three, the 33S is the cheapest. Hope this helps.
Edited: 26 Feb 2012, 3:23 p.m.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Jan - 02-26-2012 However, no built in Polar and Rectangular conversion (though there are plenty of programs to work around this).
You can use the complex-number functionality of the 35S for P-R and R-P conversions.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Thomas Radtke - 02-28-2012 Quote:If typing in numbers and just reading results is all you need, yes. You cannot compose the polar representation from stack or registers but have to enter the numbers by hand. Likewise, it isn't possible to easily decompose the rectangular representation to stack or registers. The 35s firmware is a masterpiece if you consider it has been developed on paper, being implemented by third-party, and beta-tested in a reduced period of time. With some iterative work between the parties, it could have been a true successor of the wonderful 32SII. As it is now, it's just a buggy calculator not worth considering for serious use.
About the 33S: Less bugs due to less features. It still contains the lock-up bug and others.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - x34 - 02-29-2012 I like HP-35s and use it every day. While HP-15C is very sexy, HP-35s is far more capable and much faster than the original HP-15C. Lack of p-r conversions? x86 too does not have them. For me, the most ugliest bugs are N-base entry and display of exponent. Things HP-35S is much better (IMHO) than hp-32s/32sII/33s:
1. Numerical labels Bugs present in 35s are the mostly the same as in 33s. Features i wish were implemented:
1. ALPHA var, a-la HP-41/42s Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Thomas Radtke - 02-29-2012 Quote:The 32S(II) offers indirect addressing, too. Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - x34 - 03-01-2012 Yes, i mean ALL memory is addressable. HP-32S could only address ~30 memory locations, while Hp-35s could address ~800.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Matt Agajanian - 03-01-2012 Curious, what is the bug with the 15C-LE's 'PSE' instruction? Secondly, where can I find the doc which reveals the bugs which the 35s and 33s have? Please enlighten me because the 33s and 35s were bought on Monday (in other words, extremely recently). By the way, if this helps, the serial number for the 33s starts with CNA133 and the serial number for the 35s starts with CNA141
Edited: 1 Mar 2012, 7:37 p.m.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - bill platt - 03-02-2012 "While HP-15C is very sexy, HP-35s is far more capable and much faster than the original HP-15C."
Complex functions? Matrix operations? Not so strong there compared to 15C...
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Marcus von Cube, Germany - 03-02-2012 PSE in a program works just the first time. After that, the display goes blank.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Bart (UK) - 03-02-2012 Quote:OOPS, I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned in this thread before: HP-35s bug list. Sorry, I guess it should have been mentioned to you earlier. Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Cristian Arezzini - 03-02-2012 Why can't we just agree that they have different capabilities and different uses? OK, the 15C is stronger in complex and matrix math. But the 35s has alphanumeric display (and, strange as it may seem to some, not everyone wants to learn all the row/column codes just to be able to read a program). And I personally just love the looks of the 35S. I say, to each his own... I like the 15C, and use it, but I'd never program it seriously, I just don't want to spend the time to learn the numeric codes from scratch. I didn't have it in "the old days" so I didn't learn it, and learning it now doesn't make sense to me. For programming today I use the WP34s, before it was the 35S and the 50g... for regular (non-programmed) operations I mostly use the 15C or WP34S when outside, and the WP34S or the 50g or 48GX when at home.
Cristian
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Bart (UK) - 03-02-2012 How about:
Depends on what you want it for really. Don't shoot it down because it doesn't meet your wish list.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Bart (UK) - 03-02-2012 I must say that I am starting to use the WP-34s more often too.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Paul Dale - 03-02-2012 I'm finding I've got to force myself to use my 41CL....
- Pauli
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Paul Dale - 03-02-2012 The 34S trumps this comfortably :-)
No doubt I've missed lots of things.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - the 34S! - Bart (UK) - 03-02-2012 It is really packed full of functions, and even though I do not use many of them, there are a few rarer one I do use (e.g. chisquare), and will save me a lot of trouble when programming. (admittely I have yet to write a program for the 34S). Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - the 34S! - Marcus von Cube, Germany - 03-02-2012 Quote:You are missing much of the fun of it. Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - the 34S! - Dominic Richens - 03-02-2012 Quote: Once you've written one, you'll want to write more. Which is probably V3.0's best enhancement - management of multiple "sets" of programs in it's massive flash space.
I think only the HP41/42 compares to it.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - the 34S! - Paul Dale - 03-02-2012 I'd have to concur. The 41 has much better I/O & expansion capabilities. The 42 has better integrated complex number and matrix support.
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Matt Agajanian - 03-02-2012 Although the list was written in 2007, how relevant is it to my 35s with its serial number starting with CNA141? Edited: 3 Mar 2012, 12:12 p.m. after one or more responses were posted
Re: 33s, 35s or 15cLE--which to buy? - Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) - 03-02-2012 100%
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