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I Wish HP Higher End Calcs Were Solar-Powered! - Jeff - 01-30-2012

I don't know why they aren't. While the solar panels might not have enough capacity for real time use, they could be used to charge rechargeable batteries.


Re: I Wish HP Higher End Calcs Were Solar-Powered! - Jake Schwartz - 01-30-2012

Hi,

Back in the early 1980s, I managed to hook up a small solar panel to successfully run the HP41 (except for the card reader) in ambient light. That panel was around 20 square inches - around the same size, or possibly slightly larger than the HP41 itself. I hope that cells have gotten much better in the past three decades or so to do the job.

Jake


Re: I Wish HP Higher End Calcs Were Solar-Powered! - Garth Wilson - 01-30-2012

The 41 manual says it takes about 20mA when a program is running, which is a lot to get from calculator-sized solar cells at 5 to 6V even in the sun. Common indoor lighting in a house will be well under 1% of the brightness of sunlight. The 50g, inspite of bigger batteries, has very short battery life compared to the 41.


Re: I Wish HP Higher End Calcs Were Solar-Powered! - Eric Smith - 01-31-2012

Why they aren't is that photovoltaics not only don't supply enough current to run the calculator, but also don't supply enough to charge a rechargeable pack in any reasonable interval. They barely supply more than the self-discharge of NiCd and NiMH (except the low-self-discharge NiMH). The amount of power you can get from 10-15 cm^2 of photovoltaics even in bright sunlight is negligible.

Photovoltaics only are sensible on calculators with *extremely* limited processing power, which means not beyond low-end scientific or business calcs. You might notice that on solar-powered scientific calculators, the transcendental functions are often very slow. Such calculators use ultra-low-power masked-ROM microcontrollers which have very little memory and run at amazingly slow clock rates. For obvious reasons that is unsuitable for high-end calculators.