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Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Gerardo Rincon - 09-07-2011 I just received the HP-12C 30th Anniversary - Added to my collection website: rinconcentral.com. The 25th Anniversary was a Platinum model - much nicer than the HP 12C 30th Anniversary which is a Standard (non-platinum) calculator. This one does have the two batteries with the faster processor.
Edited: 7 Sept 2011, 11:14 p.m.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Brian Walsh - 09-08-2011 Quote:I'll take the non-platinum color one any day for its use of traditional blue and gold shift keys and matching key and overlay labeling which are far more legible than the platinum version, especially that horrid orange and low contrast orange overlay lettering. Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - hpnut - 09-08-2011 Hi Gerardo, congrats for being the first in this forum to own a 30th Annv 12C. who did you order from? i have placed orders for a 15C and 12C from Samsons, still waiting.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Glenn Dowdy - 09-08-2011 Quote:
First? :)
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - hpnut - 09-08-2011 Hi Glenn,
yes, 1st. other than HP people like yourself, Tim and Cyrille :-)
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Tom Mathes - 09-08-2011 Interesting that it only comes with a quick-start guide and not a full-blown manual (printed, that is; I'm looking at your web page images). I thought it was supposed to have a printed manual too?
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Glenn Dowdy - 09-08-2011 Quote:
I do have the highest serial number, though: 888888.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - MBlount - 09-08-2011 I got mine today after ordering from buy.com yesterday. Their warehouse is just up the road from me and I got it in only one day. LE #00710.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Gerardo Rincon - 09-08-2011 I ordered it from the HP Small Business store. Edited: 8 Sept 2011, 7:15 p.m.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Glenn Shields - 09-08-2011 Please answer one burning question: does SST work now? Meaning, when holding down the SST button, do you see the program step? TIA, Glenn
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - hpnut - 09-08-2011 Glenn! you lucky devil! 8 in Chinese language is an auspicious number :-)
I hope both my HP 12c and 15c have at least one "8" figure in the serial no.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Katie Wasserman - 09-09-2011 Yes, this was fixed a couple of years ago in a later version of the firmware. The first batch of 12C+ calculators went out with an early version of the firmware that had several problems. Read this thread for all the details.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - M. Joury - 09-09-2011 Well it's good to know that they got those right at least. Though I don't know if that gives me more or less confidence that they actually have the 15C LE.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Glenn Shields - 09-09-2011 I appreciate that info, but the new 12C I got from Amazon (two months ago) doesn't work right, so my question is how do I get one now with a working SST (in any version)? Do none of the "plain" 12Cs have it fixed? BTW, loved your sorting program, which sorts "top-down", I was able to write one which sorts up, and uses a financial register as a "flag" to check for any mis-ordered pairs, so the running time varies depending on the data set. But it is longer and not as elegant. But so much pencil and paper is necessary without having that SST! Thanks again, Glenn in West LA
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Gene Wright - 09-09-2011 You can flash this yourself with the proper cable and firmware update.
I have both. Cable will cost you postage, firmware is free. :-) Send me a note through the forum email option.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Katie Wasserman - 09-09-2011 Glenn, Post your sorting program, I'd love to see it. Debugging on the 12C can indeed be very hard. I wrote linked-list sort some time ago for the 12CP, it uses the Nj registers for the link, it's here. It took forever with pencil and paper to debug it even with SST and BST working.
-Katie
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Glenn Shields - 09-10-2011 Thanks for sharing that, Katie- I didn't realize how far back that goes. I have learned so much from this forum, and hoped that I could share a little along the way (but I get a little hasty in composing posts and don't edit with separate lines the way most of you do). Anyway, here is something I sort of adapted from working with the 35S (which has flags and indirect addressing, of course) but is more fun on the extremely fast 12C, using up to 16 items stored in registers 0 -> .5 :
1 5 STO n 0 STO i RCL gCFj RCL gCFj x<y? GTO 20 x<>y gCFj x<>y gCFj
When register i has any value besides 0 it means a switch is necessary. Again, what an honor to hear from you, Katie - thanks, Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Marcus von Cube, Germany - 09-10-2011 Here it is on separate lines with step numbers using the "preformatted" button:
01 1 Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Katie Wasserman - 09-10-2011 Glen, Very nice! Way, way back when I was teaching myself how to program I started with a bubble sort and worked on incrementally improving it with stopping conditions (like you have) and bi-directional bubbling, etc.. This is a real challenge on a 12C, but I was using PL/C. Fortunately I got smart before too long and stopped wasting valuable IBM/360 time with O(n^2) sorts.
Re: Received HP 12C 30th Anniv. - Glenn Shields - 09-10-2011 Wow, that brings back memories (can we re-trace our lives via computing power?) of being in school in a Fortran class, waiting for my program to run in a room full of terminals (1986). I had a 15C then, and a classmate had a 41CV (it was always beeping with his reminders) and another had the Sharp mini-computer. Before that (in 1975) I got an HP35 (thanks to Dad), and my classmate then was threatening us with the power of his soon-to-be-acquired HP45 (in slide rule class!). Just torturing myself over the fact that I have none of these items today. Also had a Sharp 12-digit Elsi-mate with two separate memories to use for series computations of trigs and logs, just for the challenge. The fun of that is still here, like Valentin's 99-step trig program (still haven't tried to parse that out to see how it works). Thanks to all for your wonderful input. The forum helped me keep this hobby alive. ;-)
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