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9810a display question - David Ramsey - 08-22-2011

So, if I put this second-generation 9810a display board in a known good 9810 and see this at power on:

...it seems reasonable to assume that it's a driver problem rather than a miraculous co-incidental failure of the same LED segments in each row, right?

That being the case, what components would I replace? It would be nice if it was that big vertical row of large transistors, 'cause that looks as if it would be easy.

Re: 9810a display question - Tony Duell - 08-23-2011

It might be those transistors, it might be an IC. The good news is that it's unlikely to be the displays themselves, and that the ICs are not hard to get.

Download 'my' HP9810 scheamtic and look at pages 60 and 61. The latter shows the anode (segment) drivers for the displays. Now, in the X register you're missing segments c,d,e (at least). Those all come from sections of U16 (page 61 of the diagrams), so that IC could be faulty (FWIW, I've had these ICs where all sections have failed at once). Use a 'scope or a logic probe to see if the outputs are changing state. If not, change U16, if they are, check the associated transistors (you'll have to trace the tracks to find them). Basically, for each missing segment, check the output of the associated 7403 gate, if that's not toggling, change that 7403, if it is, test the transistor.

I notice you're missing the d segment (the bottom one) from all displays. This might just mean all the drivers have failed, it might also mean they're getting no input. Look at page 60 of the
schematics, you'll see that the segment drive lines are buffered (bottom right corner of the page). See if the output of U17b is changing state. If not, change it.