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HP 19C continuing saga...pictures!!! - Geoff Quickfall - 07-27-2011 One simple question. I spent an hour working on this calculator mechanically removing the cemented blue corrosion. I used a dental pick and fiberglass brush. Ethanol and a natural bristled paint brush to rinse with. What can I soak this in to dissolve the blue corrosion. Now to the calculator. I purchased this one for parts for the ACT chip and swap to the 19C from this post: The calculator was missing the LED red plastic lens and the calc was described as non-working, with original battery pack. So I had no illusions that it would function. Wasn't cheap (100USd) but I can justify as it is for the book. Here is a top view with the missing lens:
For the heck of it, I removed the battery pack (not bad) and cleaned the minor dusting of white powder off the contacts. Then attached an alternate battery pack with clips to the appropriate contacts. It not only lit up but PRX printed the display. All 98 program registers and functions were perfect!! So now the "Other calculator" is to be the donor. Started to disassemble and was met by this internal label:
Investigating further; HOLY COW look at the before pictures and you tell me if it should have lit up!!!!
Even the two capacitors at the battery contact PCA were delaminated and rotting. I actually thought there were three caps on this board:
So time to clean up.
On these two photos most of the contaminant was removed and unfortunately a trace was missing a section after cleaning. Corroded through for a 1cm section. This was bridged by a black wire seen below.
I used the donor with two good caps to replace the two bad caps (but functioning):
So now here it is with the donor lens in place and back to the first question. What does one use to dissolve the blue (vinegar bath?).
Cheers, Geoff
THE CL is AWESOME! it is the only calculator I use now! Unsolicited advertising for the CL. Edited: 27 July 2011, 8:06 p.m.
Re: HP 19C continuing saga...pictures!!! - aj04062 - 07-27-2011 Hoochie Mamma, that's a wicked lot of corrosion. I've used vinegar baths. I usually warm it up in the microwave so the acid can really be active. It's fun watching the chemistry experiment in action. I usually place it under the vent in my kitchen as I have no idea what gaseous byproducts are being emitted. Adam
Edited: 27 July 2011, 8:42 p.m.
Re: HP 19C continuing saga...pictures!!! - Bart (UK) - 07-28-2011 Hi Geoff, Battery leakage is mainly basic (PH), and the alcohol vinegar is acid, so they react with each other and the remains of the reaction (a salt, right?) is easily removed with a paint brush, current water and neutral detergent. As you can see, I removed the LED display, power supply and some components (transistors, elect. caps, "SSS" module contacts, etc.) prior to clean it up. I have been doing this for some time (woodstocks and these TI's, mostly) and have successfully removed copper oxide from them. In one particular case, a TI59 board with extensive oxidation damage, had the remains of many copper tracks being dissolved or popped out of the mainboard.
The hot water accelerates the reaction, but after some time its temperature raises down and the reaction decelerates as well. Anyway, I always keep my eyes over the board during the process and never let it stays for more than 20-22 hours." Re: HP 19C continuing saga...pictures!!! - Mark Henderson - 07-28-2011 Yesterday I worked on a non-working 29C purchased in January from TAS. Upon opening it had the (expected) corrosion, not as severe as the 19C here, but clearly enough to cause problems. Soaked for only a few minutes in warm water with white vinegar and a drop of dish washing liquid, brushed with a nylon brush, air-blast dried. Some cleaning of the case and keys, reassemble - and it WORKS! Perfectly!! So happy! I also have a working 19C and love the calc (especially that the X-register is preserved through power-off, unlike all the other LED "C" models). So today all my work is being done on my almost-as-new-looking 29C!!!
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