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Internal User Modifications - John Kercheval - 04-19-2002 Any of you guys know of or tried to modify the hardware? I did the double speed mod to the 41CV. CalcPro is advertising an internal memory upgrade for the 48GX. We tried to hardwire ROM chips directly into the INSIDE of the 41CX (failed) Any other mods tried?
John Kercheval
Re: Internal User Modifications - Chris Catotti - 04-19-2002 I have doubled HP-41 modules within the module cases. These are described by David (Ebras-) White in the PPC Journal under a series of articles titled "Butcher's Block".
I have also done the internal speedup on the HP-41. I did these circa 1984, and have not taken the time to do another one. I could find the articles if needed ... they are easy to follow.
Re: Internal User Modifications - John Kercheval - 04-19-2002 The speedups only involve the replacement of one capacitor. Sadly, they must be done on older machines as they newer ones had a blob of epoxy on the to prevent tinkering.
John Kercheval
Re: Internal User Modifications - David Smith - 04-19-2002 I have opened up well over 100 HP41 machines of all types and ages. I have never seen one with the timing capacitor epoxied over.
Re: Internal User Modifications - Johnny - 05-07-2002 I never did the speedup on my CX, but I'm actually
However, I have the ZenROM and two X-mem modules
Have worked like a charm for 10+ years now.
Re: Internal User Modifications - Johnny - 05-07-2002 I've only looked inside one Halfnut, and it
The fullnut have them visibly enough. No problems
However, I no longer remember which one to change,
Actually, if I remember correctly, the inside of the Re: Internal User Modifications - John Kercheval - 05-07-2002 I have not done that mod in about 18 years. But I'm sure someone on here has the instructions. We could modify CV's easily enough but all of the CX's we tried had a blob of epoxy over the circuitry. We looked into modifying about 5 or 6 of them and all had it. However there may be those that do not. Good luck & let me know how it works out.
JK
Re: Internal User Modifications - Kim - 05-07-2002 The halfnut has an SMD capacitor that you can swap using the same rules as the NUT. If you don't use the card reader or the IL, you can remove the cap altogether and your speed will be 3x. Most units will work well with 80% increase (33pF).
Kim
Re: Internal User Modifications - John Kercheval - 05-08-2002 I did not know you could do that. Without the capacitor at ALL did you experience crashes or lockups?
Re: Internal User Modifications - Kim - 05-09-2002 Apparently the halfnut IC and the PCB had gone through enough techno iterations to not be bothered and - of course - the location of PCB tracks close enough and long anough to act as a capacitor. As far as I remeber the original cap was 150pF at 1x the 33pF at 1.8x and the wires must be but a couple of pF. No no crash, no lockups, no nothing - except a lot of battery consumption (probably part of the original design tradeoffs)
Kim
Re: Internal User Modifications - Peter Lampione - 05-09-2002 I thought internal user modifications were best
Peter
Re: Internal User Modifications - Johnny - 05-09-2002 Okay, I have my CX open now. I see three: 1 470 uF (probably to maintain power when battery is changed). 1 grey with onknown value. Looks like normal electrolyt.
1 blue drop capacitor. Marked "33+ 10F" if I manage
If I remember correctly, it's one of the three in the Re: Internal User Modifications - Luis - 05-10-2002 Hi Johnny, After all this thread and as interested in speed up my 41CX, could you tell me how can I do this? I've tried to find out any instruction here but unsuccessful. My 41CX is of 1987 and have reduced electronics. Thanks All!
Luis
Re: Internal User Modifications - Johnny - 05-10-2002 Unfortunately I don't know much about the newer
Someone here claimed otherwise though. I hope he
For the older hardware, the speedup is achieved by Re: Internal User Modifications - Kim - 05-10-2002 OK, it seems like everyone has some level of amnesia, after all this modification has not been in fashion for about a generation. Older NUTs One capacitor, usually green (very old red), resembling something like 150pF. That's the one (LC curcuit) Half NUTs (what an expression) the Cap is a TINY cheramic SMD component (20 mil by 30) located (as far as I recall) on the lower left of the CPU chip (could be epoxy covered) around 7 o'clock. Again some sort of indication should be present that this is 150pF. DISCLAIMER You are on you own, this could Zap the MOS circuits (Might require the earlier indicated MD). I personally changed speed on about 500 units some 10-12 years ago (commercial approach) and NEVER zapped one unit. But I used all the Bells and Whistles in order to protect against ESD.
Re: Internal User Modifications - Johnny - 05-10-2002 Let me know if I should take this by email instead. I don't see either a green or red capacitor. :-/
Holding the CPU card with the large 470uF capacitor
It was a long time ago, but I seem to remember that
The only green component I have is a small thing under
Is *that* the capacitor to change?
Re: Internal User Modifications - David Smith - 05-10-2002 The capacitor can be in different places depending upon the board revision. It is in parallel with an inductor that has a very low (less than 50 ohm) resistance. If you have an ohm meter you can try buzzin around for the cap with the inductor across it. On all the full nut boards that I have seen it is a light blue-green color with a value of 150 pF (usually inicated by the numeric code 151, but sometimes 150)
Re: Internal User Modifications - Johnny - 05-11-2002 Ah. Silly me, the grey unidentified thing was the But I cannot find any capacitor in paralell with it.
I found one capacitor the the marking "151K" but
This is slightly silly. Unfortunately my digital |