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HP-35s in Hex mode - Joel Setton (France) - 01-20-2010

Folks,

I guess I'm not the first person trying to use the 35s to do hexadecimal arithmetic... But the thing is next to useless! Looking at the example of a simple addition (page 11-5 in the user's guide), why does the 35s require a hex terminator, i.e. three additional keystrokes after every number?

Once HEX mode is selected, couldn't they make it work this way:
1 2 F
[enter]
E 9 A
+

This is just plain-vanilla RPN... In decimal mode, arithmetic operators (such as + - * /) terminate the number being entered before performing the operation. Why not in hex mode? Didn't anyone at HP test this before releasing the code to production?

Beats me.

Joel Setton.


Re: HP-35s in Hex mode - Don Shepherd - 01-20-2010

Joel, it is well known that number bases were not implemented well on the 35s. It is what it is and will not likely change.


Re: HP-35s in Hex mode - Martin Pinckney - 01-20-2010

Try the 27s. In Hex mode, it provides soft keys for A-F. Effortless.


Re: HP-35s in Hex mode - Joel Setton (France) - 01-21-2010

Right. I also have an HP-20S which is close to the 27s in this respect, but they are both (ewww...) algebraic. Ah, well.

Joel Setton


Re: HP-35s in Hex mode - Dave Britten - 01-21-2010

Get a 32sii (or 32s). The number base handling is nearly identical to the 20s, the only difference being you have to switch bases using a menu, which amounts to one extra keystroke.

That said, the 20s is a surprisingly capable machine, and you can do some rather interesting tricks with INPUT, SWAP, and LAST. For example, here's a MOD program that uses no storage registers:

LBL F
=
(
SWAP
INPUT
=
/
LAST
)
IP
*
LAST
=
(
SWAP
-
LAST
=
RTN



Re: HP-35s in Hex mode - Ken Shaw - 01-21-2010

Lack of RPN on the 27S is it's big drawback.

That aside, the ease-of-use is amazing. R-P conversions, base conversions, etc., are all very intuitive.

I think it's very under-appreciated.


Re: HP-35s in Hex mode - Martin Pinckney - 01-21-2010

Quote:
Lack of RPN on the 27S is it's big drawback.

*IF* you are an RPN fanatic. Which I am not.


Re: HP-35s in Hex mode - Martin Pinckney - 01-21-2010

Well, I forgot to mention the 42s also has an excellent implementation, with soft keys for A-F. But as Dave pointed out, the 32sii method is pretty slick, too.


Re: HP-35s in Hex mode - Dave Britten - 01-21-2010

Quote:
I think it's very under-appreciated.

Based on the prices that model usually commands, I'm going to have to disagree with you. :)