HP Forums
HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Printable Version

+- HP Forums (https://archived.hpcalc.org/museumforum)
+-- Forum: HP Museum Forums (https://archived.hpcalc.org/museumforum/forum-1.html)
+--- Forum: Old HP Forum Archives (https://archived.hpcalc.org/museumforum/forum-2.html)
+--- Thread: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. (/thread-153623.html)



HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Saile (Brazil) - 07-28-2009

"The document is an old Science & Vie article (circa 1980) though. In French, of course."

Thank's Gerson

Link Megaupload (PDF)

Edited: 29 July 2009, 11:15 a.m. after one or more responses were posted


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Garth Wilson - 07-28-2009

This does not appear to have anything at all to do with calculators. Is this spam??


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Paul Dale - 07-28-2009

Download the link and you get a document about calculators. There is a 30 second delay to encourage subscription but after that it is good.

- Pauli


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Gerson W. Barbosa - 07-28-2009

The document is an old Science & Vie article (circa 1980) though. In French, of course.

Gerson.


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Garth Wilson - 07-28-2009

Unlike the first time, the page now says it has reached its 10-download limit, and I can't download it. I did get it just before I posted above however, and there was nothing on it about calculators.


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Thomas Radtke - 07-29-2009

I don't bother downloading a PDF if there's no other content in your message except that link. But I'll answer the message title: The dicision is difficult only if you don't know what you want. The features offered by HP and TI calculators are not secret, manuals and additional information are available online.


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Marcus von Cube, Germany - 07-29-2009

Saile, can you upload the file again. Its no longer available. Or can someone who has already downloaded the file put it somewhere else? (e.g. MegaUpload.com, where I have an account). I'll be happy to host it on my site if I can get it.


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Marcus von Cube, Germany - 07-29-2009

I've uploaded the document to my site:

http://www.mvcsys.de/download/Sience_et_Vie-748-Hewlett_ou_Texas.pdf


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Arnaud Amiel - 07-29-2009

Thanks, just read the last paragraph and the conclusion is that the TI is more accurate and the hp easier to use...


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Don Shepherd - 07-29-2009

Quote:
the conclusion is that the TI is more accurate and the hp easier to use...

Funny, I would think it would be just the opposite.


Re: HP or Texas? summary - marais - 07-29-2009

If you want an executive summary of the article, here you go:

- HP's build quality is superior to TI's

- HP's documentation for the 25 was quite good, the 33's user guide
is poor, the 67 not much better, the 34 however is appreciated. The TI documentation, on the other hand, is boring and lacks didactical quality. Clear win for HP, although only because TI's documentation is so poorly written.

- RPN is superior compared to AOL

- RPN programs are shorter: 1 line of RPN equals 1.5 to 2 with AOL

- TI internal precision is 11 decimals, HP seems to be only 8. TI wins in this (quite important) category.


I found the article quite amusing and worth reading.

Andreas

Edited: 29 July 2009, 2:48 p.m.


Re: HP or Texas? summary - Gerson W. Barbosa - 07-29-2009

Quote:
- TI internal precision is 11 decimals, HP seems to be only 8. TI wins in this (quite important) category.

Nice article, but perhaps the author did not put the calculators to the right tests. What calculators would perform better in Savage Benchmark, for instance?

http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/archv016.cgi?read=103356

Regards,

Gerson.

-----

HP calculators don't perform well in repetitive tests, like squaring 1.0000001 27 times (see link below - results in the first column, %errors in the next one) because the results are rounded to the number of digits in the display (internally the computations are carried out to 2 or 3 more guarding digits though).


http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~li6s-ysmr/argovent/argove6.html


Edited: 29 July 2009, 4:44 p.m.


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Garth Wilson - 07-29-2009

Thanks Marcus. I can finally see it. What I saw in my first download effort which I mentioned above was unrelated. French is my third language and I can't read it nearly as fast as English, but I'm anxious to get to it when I can give it the time.


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - hecube - 07-29-2009

Oh boy... I remember that issue of Science & Vie and I remember reading that article when IT CAME OUT!

I'm old...


Re: HP or Texas? The difficult decision. - Philippe Lasnier - 07-30-2009

Gosh. Science & Vie No 748 Jan/1980... I may even *have* it ;-)