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24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - gileno - 03-23-2008 Ebay Link Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Raymond Del Tondo - 03-23-2008 I assume it's based on the Clonix in general,
Raymond
Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Diego Diaz - 03-23-2008 Hi Gileno, Raymond Quite a while ago here at the MoHPC forum we had a rather peculiar "character" named Don, from Down Under (Aurtralia), who claimed he can build a Clonix too. He created a real nasty atmosfere and David Hicks was forced to modify the "Editing rules" for the posts in the forum, thus affecting all of us. (Archives tell the whole story) He mailed me privately several times asking for details regarding the construction of the Clonix, and was really upset as I never replied his mail nor his post in this forum either. Geir Isene tried to get a "Clonix" from him but I don't think he finally got the module in the end... Geir? did you manage to get it? Building a Clonix is a really easy project, in fact some users have mailed me privately in order to build their own Clonix for their own use, and even a NoVRAM. I've helped all of them and, as far as I know, they all managed to end up with a functional module. All the info regarding Clonix technical specs, PCB, part list, even the software I wrote and lots of pictures of its internals and diagrams are available on-line at no cost. Clonix was based on a previous design from John Ioannidis, and I honoured his (and a very long list of people's) job in every single copy of my programs I sell, but haven't see my name mentioned regarding this device. And I have never asked Mr. Ioannidis for help to develop my Clonix. If someone can make any profit based on my job it's ok for me (as far as he gives the appropriate credit), if someone needs my help to build a Clonix for his own is ok for me too, I've never asked a single cent for that. But I won't spent my time to help someother make his business. Everyone is free to buy whatever he likes to whomever he likes. And I certainly believe in free market as the best way to put everything and everyone in the place it/he deserves. Now, for your question Gileno: No, it's not "better" than Clonix. It's more likely either a 'Clone' of a Clonix, or a resold Clonix from those I trade some years ago. Those claimed "eight" 4K pages are not all into the PIC's Flash ROM... only six in the PIC... (24K in total) ;-) By the way, a new Clonix-41D ("D" stands for "double") with 12x4K will see the ligth as I get a reasonably priced USB PIC programmer. It will be the companion for the too long awaited NoV-64. In the meantime anyone can get a real Clonix quite cheaper than the one in the auction and with the adapter for re-programming!... or even better: can build it by himself and enjoy a lot!! ;-) Best wishes from the Canary Islands. Diego.
PS. I've spent far more time writing this post than the "subject" deserves, so I won't make any further comments on the issue.
Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Matthias Wehrli - 03-24-2008 Question: How do you programm this unit?
Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Geir Isene - 03-24-2008 Quote: Yes, I sent him money and even two XM modules (for him to make it into a double XM module). I never saw the module, nor my money back.
My advice is: I never had any problems with Diego. He has always been helpful and given more value than I expected. Buy from him.
Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) - 03-24-2008 Hi Diego from you first customer ;-) Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Meindert Kuipers - 03-24-2008 I have seen some items for 3EO_RTN in the classifieds section of this museum: Barcodes, PDF's, QRF's and EPROMs. Now we see a Clonix Clone on ebay. I have no problem if someone wants to make a bit of money, but in my personal opinion this is not in line with the general atmosphere of sharing and being respectful others persons work. I know from my own experience that Diego and many other friends here on the forum are very open and share their ideas, sources, schematics, listings, documents and technologies. I do that as much as possible myself as well. I think we would all be much more respectful of 3E0_RTN if he would share what is inside and be more open and allow others to build configurations as well. My personal opinion is that that we all share a common interest, and the 'share' is the magic word here. Of course some hardware, collectibles and services cost real money, but if we never shared our knowledge and goodies then there would never be so much friends here.
Just my 2 Eurocents ....
Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Prabhu Bhooplapur - 03-24-2008 If "3e0_rtn" is just the latest eBay incarnation of Emmanuel then I wish tons of good luck to his customers. One should consider oneself lucky to get an email response from him even after paying him in full. If he ships then one has really struck a winning LOTTO. I agree with Geir: BUY FROM DIEGO.
Greetings from Singapore.
Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Jeff Davis - 03-24-2008 I have received the two items that I purchased from Emmanuel. It did take some time but the items were received. I have also cooresponded with him lately via e-mail. He does have an interesting project with the FORTH 41 that I am interested in. If he gets this successfully ported out of pages 4-5 I would buy the module. Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Massimo Gnerucci (Italy) - 03-24-2008 Quote:
Well, to be fair I bought a module from Emmanuel some years ago and, altough a little slowly, all went well. Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Prabhu Bhooplapur - 03-24-2008 Just to share my experience: I did finally win a LOTTO with Emmanuel and did eventually receive the shipment after persuasive correspondence via Paypal "Goods not received" category. I have received excellent support and prompt communication from Diego all the time. Unbeatable and friendly service! He truly believes in sharing. Meindert has been very good communicator too! I am on his waitlist of prospective buyers. Look forward to hear from you Meindert when it is my turn in the queue. Best regards,
Prabhu
Debate around 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - 3E0_RTN - 03-24-2008 Hi there,
Edited: 24 Mar 2008, 6:36 p.m.
Re: Debate around 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Prabhu Bhooplapur - 03-24-2008 Hi Emmanuel, My apologies for the light hearted comments I made without knowing that you were seriously ill during the period of our transaction. I wish you a good health and look forward to your contributions to the world of HP41. Best regards,
Prabhu
Re: 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Gonzalo Fernandez (Spain) - 03-25-2008 Where is the Forth 41 manual? In hpmuseum? TOS?
Re: Debate around 24K ROM PROGRAMMABLE MODULE FOR HP-41C HP-41CV HP-41CX - Meindert Kuipers - 03-25-2008 3E0_RTN, I appreciate your openness, I hope you are really well now. Looking forward to seeing more info,
Meindert
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