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Constants in the HP35S - J-F Garnier - 11-11-2007

I noticed that the physics constants in the HP35S are slightly different from my other "reference" machines.
Several values are just changed by less than 1ppm, but some constants exhibit more important deviations:

	HP35S		reference machines
G 6.673E-11 6.67259E-11
k 1.3806503E-23 1.380658E-23
R 8.314472 8.314510

reference machines:
HP48SX with HP Solve Eq Lib
HP49G+ (2.01-2)
TI89 with EE-Pro 1.1

The biggest relative difference is found for the constant of gravitation. As G is not known very well, it seems that it's now a rounded value.
The values of the Boltzmann constant k and molar gas constant R are changed by several ppm.

I don't know for the HP50. Was it updated with new constant values too?


Edited: 11 Nov 2007, 11:35 a.m.

Re: Constants in the HP35S - James M. Prange (Michigan) - 11-11-2007

I don't know for the HP50. Was it updated with new constant values too?

No, it uses the same ROM, equation libraries, and periodic table library as the
49g+. For that matter, with a few simple tricks, this ROM (although without
the Saturn+ speed-up tweaks) can be used on the 49G as well.

The equation and periodic table libraries are ports of the libraries on the
Solve Eq Lib card for the 48SX, and as far as I know, no constants were
changed. In particular:

G: 6.67259E-11_m^3/(s^2*kg)     G: 3.32208E-11_lbf*ft^2/lb^2
k: 1.380658E-23_J/K k: 7.270063E-27_Btu/°R
R: 8.31451_J/(gmol*K) R: 10.73164_psi*ft^3/(lbmol*°R

Does anyone know whether any "constants" have been "officially" revised from
what they were when the 48SX was current?

By the way, if you're using ROM revision 2.01-2, then I recommend upgrading to
either the latest "official" ROM,
Version C Revision #2.09
(build 92)
(but use the
newer libraries), or
maybe the newer "unofficial"
Version G
Revision #2.10-7 (Build 93)


Re: Constants in the HP35S - Ken Shaw - 11-12-2007

According to NIST (least sig. digits uncertainty in parentheses)


G is 6.67428 (67)

k is 1.3806504 (24)

R is 8.314472 (15)

Re: Constants in the HP35S - Dave Shaffer (Arizona) - 11-12-2007

If you click a few layers deeper, to codata ref you will see the magic term "CODATA internationally recommended values."

These values are the result of an occasional (every few years) least-squares adjustment of all the latest experimental determinations of physical constants. The results become the values recommended for all scientific uses. In this case, the latest fit took place in 2006. If you want your HP 48/49/50 results to agree with the rest of the world, you should use the CODATA values. For all you error analysis junkies, note that all constants also have an error estimate. (A few constants, like the speed of light, are given/defined to have an exact value.)