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Symbols for scientific notation  JoelB  08232007 I am looking for a new calculator and I like what I see in the HP 35s, but I have two concerns. My current calculator has scientific notation prefix symbols from atto to exa and I value these. Without these I would be entering many zeroes or exp, n, +/, which is an extra keystroke I can do without. Does the 35s offer an easy way to do this?
Secondly, how is the screen's aspect ratio in practice? I am used to something closer to the 33s.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  Walter B  08232007 1. No. 2. The LCD is identical with the one in the 33s.
HTH
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  DaveJ  08232007 That would be engineering notation. Some of the Casio's have it.
Dave.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  Thomas Radtke  08232007 Casio's fx4500p had it, plus it was programmable. Of course, no match for the 35s which is far easier to use and likewise powerful.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  DaveJ  08232007 Quote: Actually, my old FX61F has it and it is actually keystroke programmable.
Of the current casio programmable models available, only the FX4500PA has it:
The FX5500LA has "Engineering symbol calculations" but not engineering notation entry.
Dave.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  JoelB  08232007 I've been using the fx580 link for more than 15 years now. (It's taken one too many coffee spills and now despite best efforts I've lost part of the display.) My main use is in electronics/physics calculations. I'm not sure I need it to be programmable but I like the idea of storing my most used formulas.
The things I like from reading about the 35s are the solid build, the sensible styling, and I have to admit I'm a little RPN curious. I have used RPN calculators before but not as an engineering tool.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  Bruce Bergman  08232007 Interesting! I've never seen that Casio model before. Casio seems to have a never ending supply of different calcs out there, even in current production. Every once in a while I spot a new one and am intrigued by the diversity (or similarity, in some cases) of their line. Very interesting (read: strange) company, they are...
thanks, Re: Symbols for scientific notation  DaveJ  08232007 Quote: Being used to a basic algebraic scientific like the FX580 for so long, I suspect that you may find the 35S frustrating for everyday use. The 35S is optimised as a powerful programmable calculator, hence the keyboard is designed as such. That means less dedicated keys that you use in everyday calculations. If you think you'll miss the engineering notation entry, then the lack of basic primary keys like ENG and LOG might be enough to drive you up the wall. Then of course there is the RPN hurdle. By all means get a 35S to play with, but I would also get one of the new casio scientific's to replace your old faithful as your everyday calc. If you are into electronics then you may like to check out the old Casio FX61F which is optimised for electronics calcs. They still come up on eBay occasionally. It has engineering notation entry, impedance modes, and a very handy parallel key.
Dave.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  JoelB  08242007 Quote:Oh, I hadn't noticed...I think it would. Quote:Sadly, they have nothing current that excites me. I thought my field was a common market target, but apparently not. This both concerns and saddens me. Quote:I might do that, thanks. Re: Symbols for scientific notation  DaveJ  08242007 Quote: What features would excite you? The great thing about Casio's is that there are plenty of all the older models on eBay, and prices are very low compared with the ridiculous prices being had for the HP's.
Dave.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  DaveJ  08242007 There is an FX580 going on eBay if you want a replacement:
Dave.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  JoelB  08242007 Quote:My needs are fairly simple, I think: log, indicies, eng notation, nested parentheses, rect/polar, trig, constants, screen editing facilities, and a formula store would be good.
Quote:Tracking that, thank you. Even if I win it, though, I may keep looking for something new. Edited: 24 Aug 2007, 7:51 a.m.
Re: Symbols for scientific notation  Alain Mellan  08242007 It may be a typical case of "process oriented" company (Casio) vs. "result oriented" company (HP).
Asian companies tend to have a refined process, that allows them to churn out incrementally improved models very quickly. Especially when it comes to consumer electronics it seems. I wish HP would be a little bit more like Casio in some respects: fix the bugs quickly and ship a new version of the machine. Then add P>R, R>P, IMG, RE, etc, and ship yet a new version ...
