For some time I have been having a desire to use my 71b for something more than just Basic and was looking for the Forth ROM. In a round about way I got hold of a 41-translator ROM and to my great surprise I found that it seems to have the entire Forth/text/asembler/compiler package that was in the Forth ROM. Can anybody confirm wether that is true or there - indeed - are some differences.
Greatfull for any answer
Kim
Hi,
the translator module doesn't have the assembler and debugger onboard (AFAIK),
but of course the 'normal' FORTH environment.
Regards,
Raymond
The Forth/Assembler ROM includes the Assembler part - The debugger was available seperately on thisk at a later time.
The complete package was the Forth/Assembler/Debugger package.
The Translator Pack includes a HP41C (CV?) emulator.
I'd bet, that you could enter the assembler software via keyboard, if you have the FORTH IDS from CHHU.
The Forth IDS includes a complete listing of the Forth kernel (including the assembly language part), but not the debugger.
I've never tried this, because I own both ROMs, so there was no need for it.
Hi,
I have the translator ROM as well as the full Forth/Assembler ROM, but no manuals at all (unfortunately they are not on the Museum CD). From what I have figured out so far the Assembler is in fact missing in the Translator ROM...
Cheers, Richard
P.S. I am willing to pay nearly everything ;) for the Forth/Assembler ROM manuals...
Stupid me...
I just figured out, that the HP 71 Forth/Assembler manuals are on the Museum CDs, my version is just outdated. Time for the update ;)
Cheers, Richard
The manual is of a low value for the programmer. It's just a collection of short references.
The only assembler example is a function returning a constant. This is the simplest program possible on a 71B.
Yes, maybe the HP-71 IDS are on the museum CD's, too.
Many years ago, I had copies of the IDS, which were a valuable source (at least for me;-)
Raymond
For those who don't know the IDS: The software Internal Design Specs contained listings of the source code of the HP-71 OS, and the extension modules (e.g. FORTH).
There were hardware IDS, too.