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I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but someone posted this video on my forum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF5-e-ZY1Rw

Dave.

that is one (no, two) wonky key, totally unacceptable to me. this is not the HP quality that i know.

Some of you people would complain if you got hung with a new rope.

Sam, Cyrille, Tim and every one involved in the new 15c deserve a medal for finding a way to make this improbable and unprofitable pipe dream into a reality, as does anyone that finds a fixable problem in the firmware.
I bought 3 because i said i would on that online petition and i'm in the bad habit of keeping my word. However: what i'd really like to see and use is that 42 clone-on-the-17b platform that people have been talking about. But that will never happen if all we do is bitch them out for unimportant or correctable flaws in this one.

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unimportant or correctable flaws in this one.

Pray tell me how to input data? Does the new calcs come with touch screens?

I haven't read any review stating that the shift keys represent a significant problem. I think you *want* to exaggerate here.

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that is one (no, two) wonky key, totally unacceptable to me. this is not the HP quality that i know.

If you read the several posts on this subject over the last day or two, you will find that several have said their original 15c's also have keys that are a little loose.

In any event, this is really a non-problem, IMO. There just isn't that much movement.

The shift keys work fine. Sure, the pieces of plastic feel a little bit loose, but the actual key action is fine.

the solution to this would have been incredibly easy - make the f and g keys the same colour (brown) as the rest, then print them with a gold/blue block with the f/g in reverse (ie, the brown of the underlying plastic).

this would have the added advantage of providing the LE calculators with a very clear discerning feature to differentiate it from the originals, as well as producing an overall simpler product to assemble.





Edited: 15 Sept 2011, 10:41 a.m.

Here is the thread that discussed loose keys on the LE and past HP-15C production runs.

http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/forum.cgi?read=194818#194818

Despite the small imperfection, I am happy with the new 15c that many have worked hard to bring it back, even in a small production run.

I now have 2 in my hand. No more wishing and hoping that HP would bring it back.

I also like the advantage of the new 15c over the old one: the firmware is upgradable which I would like to see happen soon to correct some of the issues reported here.

Not a problem for me.

If this were done, I wonder how long before the paint rubbed off.

It's that way on the 35s. Also, the white numbering/lettering is printed on anyway, so the numbers are likely to wear off before the function keys (assuming the same "toughness" paint is used).

I gave both my original and the new one the good old shake test and there was more rattle from the original--none from 2/3 new ones, the third had a very slight rattle.

Admittedly my original is many years old but it has led a pretty sheltered life. I certainly don't have any complaints about the quality of the LE.

Cheers,

-Marwan

No, I like the solid color keys as implemented. More true to the original.

Horrible idea! Painted shift keys would definitely have kept me from purchasing the 15C-LE units I have. It looks very cheap, and very ugly. Did I mention cheap?

This "wobbly keys" issue is bullshit. Some could instead find better better use of their time looking for real issues in need of improvement.

As a gamma-tester, :-) I found several substantial but fixable problems (self-tests, memory corruption, PSE bugs) that I documented here last week. Still, I am quite happy with product value after spending five hours using it since Friday.

Is it an original 15C? No. Is it a 42S? Not even close. It is just a very servicable and attractive machine the likes of which HP will doubtless not be eager to waste time on in the future. I could easily have lived without a HP 15C re-issue. The 15C was far from being my favorite HP from 34 years of HP usage, so the 15C-LE won't replace my 42S or 50g.

But I'm damned happy to own two.

Yuk.

Give me a wobbly key any day, over that.

I got my two 15C calculators last night. My first impressions are quite good, actually. The f and g keys are nowhere near that wobbly on the two I received.

Just waiting for someone to say its for fools and so real engineer could use it.

I mean, you could be building a skyscraper, and at the critical task of ensuring the steel is straight and orthogonal, using your 'f' and 'g' keys as a set square could destroy the project as one of them was a few degrees out.

Daniel

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Some of you people would complain if you got hung with a new rope.

Sam, Cyrille, Tim and every one involved in the new 15c deserve a medal for finding a way to make this improbable and unprofitable pipe dream into a reality, as does anyone that finds a fixable problem in the firmware.
I bought 3 because i said i would on that online petition and i'm in the bad habit of keeping my word. However: what i'd really like to see and use is that 42 clone-on-the-17b platform that people have been talking about. But that will never happen if all we do is bitch them out for unimportant or correctable flaws in this one.

Hear, hear here? ;-) Playing the game "what does the author want to tell us with his writing?"?

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I mean, you could be building a skyscraper, and at the critical task of ensuring the steel is straight and orthogonal, using your 'f' and 'g' keys as a set square could destroy the project as one of them was a few degrees out.

LOL!

A new use for the classic Voyagers, it seems.

We already have a good way to tell them apart from the front: the "Limited Edition" script. If a seller is dishonest enough to photoshop that out, what's to stop them from copy/pasting keys from another picture onto a TAS auction or something?

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Hear, hear here? ;-) Playing the game "what does the author want to tell us with his writing?"?

I have a firmware bug and must be put on TAS immediately ;)

Daniel